Bike ID ???

[Funkyworm]

Ok Ive never had a new school bike,

Never even been interested in them , in fact i have no place on one at all ,(but) after going to terminal 1 last night I thought i'd see if i could find something cheap & if so maybe at some time in the future I might actually have a go after rolling around at home for a bit !

So I found this on the bay today, got it super cheap (or expensive as it's most likely a piece of crap) but for £100 i thought it was worth the risk.

First school boy error, Ive got it home & realised I can't mount a rear brake to it as the lugs have been removed from the top tube (can anyone help me replace these as I ain't a kid & I need brakes before i go anywhere near it.

Second thing the Kid who was in Stoke was selling it as he'd come off of it & he had the mother of all scars on his collar bone from where he broke it & had it operated on (So the bikes got Previous) & is most likely why they changed the forks.....

Ok well the bike was advertised as & is supposed to be the following:

frame:subrosa pandora ( custom glow in the dark paint ).. Clearly they have done this themselves at some point but its been well ridden since Don't know the year r even if it is a Subrosa ??
forks= wethepeople ( these have a salt on the drop out but are these not the same company )
handlebars=wethepeople signature chet blacksmith  ?? Who's he ? & are they correct ? they have a decal saying Magma heat treatment wethepeople ?





stem=salt  (OK I can see the logo on the stem & Headset)
tyres= Odyssey red wall tyres signature by aitkens (OK same here)
pegs=salt OK no probs here either but would like to take them off
wheel set=xposure (The Hubs have an x on them cant see any other markings) ?
grips= odi  (yup ok here too)
pedals=  cult again i can see the logo I'm assuming these are really cheap?
crank and arms= wethepeople, (They have some markings on the inside of the arms ) Are these legit???



So, any idea if this info is correct what year it might be & just how much of a piece of crap it really is ?

At the very least the paint does glow in the dark so the £100 paid can actually help me save on my evening lighting bill !!!!




Any info wold be great.

[QUADROPHENIA]

Sure there not removable mounts for the brake ?

[Betty]

It's alright that for the money  

Salt is wethepeoples own parts brand

Shame about the lugs, have they been chopped off or are they removable screw in ones that are just missing?

[Funkyworm]

Sure there not removable mounts for the brake ?

Eh ? Dont even know what removable mounts are mate, but theres  2 points on the underside of the top tube where there has been something ground off before it was painted!

 Ive googled the Subrosa Pandora frame & there looks on older models to be 2 lugs the one at the front is where the brake  cable passes through & the second is where the cable leaves the outer & heads towards the rear calliper.

[Funkyworm]

It's alright that for the money  

Salt is wethepeoples own parts brand

Shame about the lugs, have they been chopped off or are they removable screw in ones that are just missing?

Sorry Betty ,

Just saw your post, I didn't know that removable lugs even existed, it deff looks to be a ground down stump to me    so Any idea what year it might be & is it a Subrosa

[HEYWOOD BMX]

  You can buy removable cable guides,you`ll need to grind down the remnants of the originals and drill/tap the frame.Perhaps the lugs can be modified to take a set of removable lugs (also available to buy).

[Funkyworm]

You can buy removable cable guides,you`ll need to grind down the remnants of the originals and drill/tap the frame.Perhaps the lugs can be modified to take a set of removable lugs (also available to buy).

Cool sounds like the way forward, ny idea where i can get these do you have a link

Cheers

[HEYWOOD BMX]

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx'modelID=47051

[bobbbbsy]

just the same size as the bits after the screw in removable legs have been unscrewed. go see if its got threaded holes

wtp is salt and vice versa but salt also supply other firms

dos nt look like a piece of crap to me. you sure you are not looking at your burner by mistake? 

[GavinDavis]

Thats a real tidy set up for £100 

[HEYWOOD BMX]

 Bars are defo WeThePeople,Chet(Chester) Blacksmith is a shitehot street/park rider.Salt are one of WTP`s parts companies.

[Wadz]

It's defo subrosa dos it say pandora on the bottom bracket , the SDT stands for signal down tube, I think they came as frame only, forks were purchase seperately ,
£100 not bad if ya can sort the brake issue
Rattle can the bars and it will look half decent 

[Funkyworm]

just the same size as the bits after the screw in removable legs have been unscrewed. go see if its got threaded holes

wtp is salt and vice versa but salt also supply other firms

dos nt look like a piece of crap to me. you sure you are not looking at your burner by mistake? 

Hello mate yes the holes on the rear are threaded:

[Funkyworm]

It's defo subrosa dos it say pandora on the bottom bracket , the SDT stands for signal down tube, I think they came as frame only, forks were purchase seperately ,
£100 not bad if ya can sort the brake issue
Rattle can the bars and it will look half decent 

Hello mate,  Is that the look then all rattled & Matt black ?  

I Cant see (Pandora stamped) anywhere the only kind of identification marks I can find on the bike are on the pics above, On the BB it says :CH0297 & on the other side 10SDT-0574 If this helps identify it?

 I guessed it was a Subrosa of some sort by the decorative although defunct (Brake bridge) as I seem to remember seeing this on a thread before but as for the model or year I really haven't got a clue.

[fischflo]

Looks more like a 2008? Subrosa Armada to me, look at the brake bridge on this one for example -> http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/27423  

edit: or f.ex. also ->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/53579       Looks like your frame ..... hey wait, the area around the bb/chainstays on both these bikes looks different from yours...

Same thing with the Letum (2010) model f.ex ->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/33689
....or also with the Novus 2009 model ->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/59450


Perhaps things are different with a Salvador 2008 ----cant't see the relevant detail here unfortunaltely---- -> http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/66810
(or here 2010 meodel ->http://www.pinkbike.com/u/freeride126/album/2010-subrosa-salvador-dirt/)
Same applies here Malum 2008 -> http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/9710

[pickle]

deffo removable brake lugs.  should be able to pick a set of those up okay 

[Funkyworm]

deffo removable brake lugs.  should be able to pick a set of those up okay 

Done some digging & been told that this should work  with the brake mounts on a a Subrosa, so I've ordered one up will need to drill & tap to mount the cable bracket for the adjuster, not sure whether to do this myself or speak to Animal about it, he's shit hot on all projects like this .

Anyone got any suggestion on a reasonable brake / lever combo ?

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/federal/removable-brake-mount-kit-ec038633?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=froogle&utm_campaign=froogle&utm_content=mkwid__pcrid_17321847296_kword__match__plid_

[Funkyworm]

Looks more like a 2008? Subrosa Armada to me, look at the brake bridge on this one for example -> http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/27423  

edit: or f.ex. also ->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/53579       Looks like your frame ..... hey wait, the area around the bb/chainstays on both these bikes looks different from yours...

Same thing with the Letum (2010) model f.ex ->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/33689
....or also with the Novus 2009 model ->http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/59450


Perhaps things are different with a Salvador 2008 ----cant't see the relevant detail here unfortunaltely---- -> http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/66810
Same applies here Malum 2008 -> http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/subrosa/9710

Good spot yeah you are right they are all very different to mine in that area behind the BB, maybe we are entering in to mid school territory it's that old ??

[fischflo]

well yeah, perhaps a pandora older than 2008 or a another model(/older than that) 

[Funkyworm]

well yeah, perhaps a pandora older than 2008 or a another model(/older than that) 

The 2008 cruiser has the same design behind the BB Im thinking it's possibly a 2007 model

[pickle]

Should already have a threaded hole for the cable hanger as well.

[Funkyworm]

Should already have a threaded hole for the cable hanger as well.

Hmm no cant see one of these either...

[fischflo]

well yeah, perhaps a pandora older than 2008 or a another model(/older than that) 

The 2008 cruiser has the same design behind the BB Im thinking it's possibly a 2007 model

THink i found a 2010 Letum with your design in the bb area ... ->http://bikemarkt.mtb-news.de/article/30486-subrosa-bmx-subrosa-letum-dirt

[Funkyworm]

well yeah, perhaps a pandora older than 2008 or a another model(/older than that)  

The 2008 cruiser has the same design behind the BB Im thinking it's possibly a 2007 model

THink i found a 2010 Letum with your design in the bb area ... ->http://bikemarkt.mtb-news.de/article/30486-subrosa-bmx-subrosa-letum-dirt

I think we have a winner    2010 Letum Dirt is it still an ok find though

[fischflo]

this looks like yours -- the seller should know -- one guy says 'Pandora'. Cranks and pedals are yours, I'd say..
http://www.vitalbmx.com/forums/BMX-Stuff-For-Sale,17/Profil-Subrosa-WTP-Odyssey-FlyBikes-StreetBike-Sell,513849