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What am I looking at?
« on: April 22, 2013, 04:27 PM »


So I'm cleaning out the garage and I stumble upon my brothers old BMX. Can anyone identify it? Shame about the spray bomb, the handlebars are Redline forklifters I think, Tuffs, MX 1000 brakes and tech 3 levers. The frame put me in mind of a Freestyler... what do you guys think?  :)






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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2013, 04:36 PM »
It's a Haro Sport, not sure on year.? ???


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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2013, 04:44 PM »
It's a Haro Sport, not sure on year.? ???

I'm no expert, but that's not a Sport, double top tube's were Masters (if it's a Haro that is, or a Freestyler if it's really old)

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2013, 04:50 PM »
It maybe an early Master then? It's defo not an FST as its twin top tube, I thought Masters had the rear standers?? :-\

Someone like Jay, Dom, Matt Swivel or Brett will be along in a minute to confirm.  :daumenhoch:


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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2013, 04:54 PM »
mmm not sure its a haro at all tbh
coaster tab dont look right

it defo aint a gen 1
it aint a gen 1 or gen 2 master with that coaster tab or rear drops

look a likey i reckon
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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2013, 05:27 PM »
I love seeing survivors like this.  I think it's a shame that so many survivors get restored back to showroom condition.  You loose all the history that goes along with the bike. 

I reckon in the future, people will appreciate bikes in survivor condition more than they do now.  It's like when you buy an antique today and you are told not clean it as collectors value the natural patina that takes so long to develop and gives the piece its character.

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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 05:43 PM »
I love seeing survivors like this.  I think it's a shame that so many survivors get restored back to showroom condition.  You loose all the history that goes along with the bike. 

I reckon in the future, people will appreciate bikes in survivor condition more than they do now.  It's like when you buy an antique today and you are told not clean it as collectors value the natural patina that takes so long to develop and gives the piece its character.

Funny you should say that as a mate & I were discussing the same thing today...

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2013, 06:06 PM »
I love seeing survivors like this.  I think it's a shame that so many survivors get restored back to showroom condition.  You loose all the history that goes along with the bike. 

I reckon in the future, people will appreciate bikes in survivor condition more than they do now.  It's like when you buy an antique today and you are told not clean it as collectors value the natural patina that takes so long to develop and gives the piece its character.

Funny you should say that as a mate & I were discussing the same thing today...

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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2013, 07:30 PM »
If it is an ammaco freestyler then it's not that model, cos there are some differences in the design  ???

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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2013, 09:44 PM »
Not ammaco, there's no cut out on the gusset and the rear drops are wrong

My initial thoughts was a foxbat freestyler, but again the rear drops are wrong, it's like a hybrid between a haro copies, does it have a serial on the outside of the rear dropout starting with a J ?

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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2013, 09:57 PM »
Not ammaco, there's no cut out on the gusset and the rear drops are wrong

My initial thoughts was a foxbat freestyler, but again the rear drops are wrong, it's like a hybrid between a haro copies, does it have a serial on the outside of the rear dropout starting with a J ?

Not as far as I can remember, I'll have a look tomorrow  :)

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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2013, 10:43 PM »
I love seeing survivors like this.  I think it's a shame that so many survivors get restored back to showroom condition.  You loose all the history that goes along with the bike. 

I reckon in the future, people will appreciate bikes in survivor condition more than they do now.  It's like when you buy an antique today and you are told not clean it as collectors value the natural patina that takes so long to develop and gives the piece its character.

Sticking my neck out a little here but i  think I disagree, most survivors (character) is simply rust & comes from neglect & sitting in a shed for 25 years, I reckon the interest in old school bmx will die out with the generation who grew with it i.e. us 40 somethings.

 Most of us appreciate a good survivor but most seem to be out to build something in showroom condition & I reckon these will be the bikes that will be appreciated both to look at & in value by collectors in years to come ,as with antiques condition is everything.

But when we drop off one by one I reckon prices will fall in the most part for most mass produced models as will the demand as product becomes more available & collectors become fewer. We've possibly already reached the ceiling for prices with the drop off coming maybe within the next 10 years or so) when most guys have been married off & sell up their collections to pay for the things in life that just happen, kids college funds cars pensions etc.

 Just a thought but buying a Haro gen 1 or 2 possibly isnt quite the investment many out there anticipate. :-\ :-\ :-\ I guess time will tell  :daumenhoch:

 

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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2013, 10:51 PM »
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well looks like a 84 master to me,,apart from the wheel brake hanger looks a bit weird..maybe cracked i dont know

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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2013, 01:17 AM »
If the frame and forks come up for sale, I would love to have another chrome twin top tub as I had mine go missing in the post. I dont know what it is, but would have gone for smmsco as well. Send me a pm if is up for grabs. Jonathan :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2013, 06:39 AM »
I love seeing survivors like this.  I think it's a shame that so many survivors get restored back to showroom condition.  You loose all the history that goes along with the bike. 

I reckon in the future, people will appreciate bikes in survivor condition more than they do now.  It's like when you buy an antique today and you are told not clean it as collectors value the natural patina that takes so long to develop and gives the piece its character.

Sticking my neck out a little here but i  think I disagree, most survivors (character) is simply rust & comes from neglect & sitting in a shed for 25 years, I reckon the interest in old school bmx will die out with the generation who grew with it i.e. us 40 somethings.

 Most of us appreciate a good survivor but most seem to be out to build something in showroom condition & I reckon these will be the bikes that will be appreciated both to look at & in value by collectors in years to come ,as with antiques condition is everything.

But when we drop off one by one I reckon prices will fall in the most part for most mass produced models as will the demand as product becomes more available & collectors become fewer. We've possibly already reached the ceiling for prices with the drop off coming maybe within the next 10 years or so) when most guys have been married off & sell up their collections to pay for the things in life that just happen, kids college funds cars pensions etc.

 Just a thought but buying a Haro gen 1 or 2 possibly isnt quite the investment many out there anticipate. :-\ :-\ :-\ I guess time will tell  :daumenhoch:

 
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 08:43 AM »
Looks like a Gen 3 master there mate, nice one  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 08:45 AM »
At a guess it is an 83/84 Torker made Haro Master, serial number would help enormously as would its location i.e. on the inside of the rear dropouts.


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Re: What am I looking at?
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2013, 09:09 AM »
At a guess it is an 83/84 Torker made Haro Master, serial number would help enormously as would its location i.e. on the inside of the rear dropouts.

It does look like a 84 master but i don't think they had that Lip on the rear drop outs & the coaster bracket looks the wrong shape.  Interesting frame though. :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2013, 09:19 AM »
At a guess it is an 83/84 Torker made Haro Master, serial number would help enormously as would its location i.e. on the inside of the rear dropouts.

It does look like a 84 master but i don't think they had that Lip on the rear drop outs & the coaster bracket looks the wrong shape.  Interesting frame though. :daumenhoch:

Looks right to me but the serial number will tell us...


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« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2013, 09:37 AM »
still dont think its a haro. that rear left side dropout aint right at all
torker made 84 gen 1 master no lip on drops and completely different coaster tab
torker made 84 gen 2 master lip on drops coaster tab moved to above on the stay
anlun made 84 gen 3 master as above but chevron stamped gusset

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« Reply #21 on: April 23, 2013, 11:21 AM »
I didnnt know any  SKWAY'S were made in the UK

like those green ones are stamped

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« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2013, 11:28 AM »
the bolted in hubbed ones were the made in the uk ones
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« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2013, 11:28 AM »
I didnnt know any  SKWAY'S were made in the UK

like those green ones are stamped

UK ones have bolted together hubs as they didn't have a press in the UK to rivet the hubs  (So Mr Pickle told me)
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« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2013, 02:25 PM »
Yep, they made them over here in the mid 80's......most were the new plastic hub but they fitted bolt in coasters as they didn't have the correct rivet machine over here.

it was mostly coloured ones like green, lavender and orange done over here as demand for the mad 80's colours took off  :daumenhoch:
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