My new bit on the side - Dont tell the wife!!

[hazzajoe]

Hopefully these images turn out to be the ones I want them to be.  If they dont, its a because a) I'm have ludite like qualities and b) because the new photobucket sucks ass!!!

All being well the images below should show the first shots of my newly acquired S&M Holmes, hopefully not too controversial "reissue".

I have been a member of the site for a few years now and have lightly partaken in some north region o/s racing. I really enjoy the crack at the racing.

I have owned and raced a number of o/s rides. An 86 robbo pro looptail, 90 ish robbo pro xl, elf double cross. I currently have a free agent Limo built up, and raced it last weekend at Coppul. I'll stick a picture in the museum if I get chance.
In the past I've not been too fussed about era correctness or indeed if things even look that good, function and value for money has always taken priority.

With this Holmes, again era correctness wont be my priority over function, however, I will try to build it with a bit more respect than I have had in the past.

Watch this space.

[neil]

Looks nice that

[hazzajoe]

Looks nice that

Thanks Man.

[SaMAlex]

Way cool. I wish I had got one of those when they were out. 

I think that this Homes and the HaroFreestyler are the only (?) re-issue frames that have done it right.
Totally as they were 1st time round, no "improvments" at all 

I dont think S&M will make them again (unless they sell for HaroFreestyler re-issue money!  )

[kev-s]

cool

is it the one thats been on ebay the last few weeks?

always wondered how to tell the difference between the og ones and the reissue if they are ment to be identical, do they have anything stamped on them to denote they are a reissue?

[hazzajoe]

cool

is it the one thats been on ebay the last few weeks?

always wondered how to tell the difference between the og ones and the reissue if they are ment to be identical, do they have anything stamped on them to denote they are a reissue?

Yeah I bought it from the bay, I really wanted a challenger, but as you all know better than I do, no-one is in a rush to sell one.

As far as it being stamped, I dont know, I've not had all of the protection off the frame yet, which as I'm typing this I'm realising, is somewhat blase' of me. I should really check it.

[GavinDavis]

Lovely! 

[kev-s]

yeah mk1 challengers dont come up for sale very often but you have bought a very good alternative

im wondering if there is anything in the serial number which would denote that its a reissue version

[hazzajoe]

yeah mk1 challengers dont come up for sale very often but you have bought a very good alternative

im wondering if there is anything in the serial number which would denote that its a reissue version

I'll check it out when I get home. 

[SaMAlex]

I think the new frames had the frame number SHMxxx and there were 100 made.
The old frames were HXLxxxx

[hazzajoe]

I'm probabllies going to be asking a lot of advice on his build.

For starters. Anyone selling a chainring . Ripsaw, ripsaw 2, gt overdrive. Bubble font flight 41t-44t. Lmk please.
Mid Race wheels 36h ? Pitbull 2. Repop padset?

[SaMAlex]

Ive probably got a chainring. And maybe some GT hubs that'd go nice on it

[Betty]

yeah mk1 challengers dont come up for sale very often but you have bought a very good alternative

im wondering if there is anything in the serial number which would denote that its a reissue version

Kev they have a different serial format to the old frames (a mate had one) its something like SMH *** three digits other than that they're identical to a mk 1 even have the sandwiched dropouts 

I wish i'd bought one n all

Anth you beat me to this one!

[Betty]

Just noticed alex has pointed out the serial no. Differences (i'm on my fone) my mate built his then bought a dirtbike didn't have a seat post for it so cut the holmes seat post in half to make two 

[hazzajoe]

SHM038

I'm off out for a role . Will reply to pm's on my return

[kev-s]

cool, i know what to look for so if i ever buy a og mk1 holmes i know its not a reissue

as for era correct, take a look the thread for mail order ads, mainly the ones from around 1990,1991 for ideas of what was around at that time

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=131775.0

[hazzajoe]

cool, i know what to look for so if i ever buy a og mk1 holmes i know its not a reissue

as for era correct, take a look the thread for mail order ads, mainly the ones from around 1990,1991 for ideas of what was around at that time

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=131775.0

Cheers Kev. Will do.

[hunterdubber]

You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track    

Get it built  

with my funds  

[hazzajoe]

You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track    

Get it built  

with my funds  

Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy. 
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.

You have first dib dobs dude

[nic968]

 Nice Holmes dude..
 It would be interesting to see if there is much difference in geometry between your Limo and this..The Free Agent kind of paved the way for what is now considered almost standard race geometry..

[hazzajoe]

Nice Holmes dude..
 It would be interesting to see if there is much difference in geometry between your Limo and this..The Free Agent kind of paved the way for what is now considered almost standard race geometry..

They don't look to dissimilar to be honest. The Holmes is in the loft till I get some bits sorted

[nosepickben]

Bit o'class there pal. Best frameset ever.
Keep the back end as short as you can (44-16 works perfect) and you will never want owt else. H have a brace of Holmes's, and a limo. The Holmes is very much like the limo, just stiffer.
Keep us updated on your build. 

[hazzajoe]

Bit o'class there pal. Best frameset ever.
Keep the back end as short as you can (44-16 works perfect) and you will never want owt else. H have a brace of Holmes's, and a limo. The Holmes is very much like the limo, just stiffer.
Keep us updated on your build. 

Nice words dude.

I certainly will keep you updated 

[Betty]

You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track    

Get it built  

with my funds  

Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy. 
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.

You have first dib dobs dude

Get a boa or a pitbull on it, those bulldog calipers are pretty cack

[hazzajoe]

You know it's a great score Ant , there will be no shortage of admirers when you show up on this at the track    

Get it built  

with my funds  

Ha. I wasted 90mins on the freeagent brake today. Fitted new pads. No difference. Messed About with pad angles, cable, rim etc.
no joy. 
I need the freeagent to race on until the Holmes is ready and am still undecided weather or not to keep it also.

You have first dib dobs dude

Get a boa or a pitbull on it, those bulldog calipers are pretty cack

That's the plan man