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1 pc & 3 pc BB fitting kits. (stupid question probably)
« on: April 11, 2013, 11:00 AM »
Ok so I need some new shiny bb cups to go on my new build,

I have my crank (Sugino ct 175) & it came with the spindle bearings etc , in fact everything including the fitting bolts etc but no BB cups.

I'm assuming that all USA BB cups are the same whether a 3piece or 1piece crank is to be used ????

When you see a full kit being advertised I'm assuming it's the fitting hardware thats differentiates a 1pc to a 3piece kit as 3 piece cranks use a spindle which is narrower than the internal part of a 1 piece crank arm hence the fitting bolts etc have a smaller diameter .....


Basically can i use any BB cup ???

Cheers
« Last Edit: April 11, 2013, 12:27 PM by Funkyworm »

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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2013, 12:28 PM »
Ok so I need some new shiny bb cups to go on my new build,

I have my crank (Sugino ct 175) & it came with the spindle bearings etc , in fact everything including the fitting bolts etc but no BB cups.

I'm assuming that all USA BB cups are the same whether a 3piece or 1piece crank is to be used ????

When you see a full kit being advertised I'm assuming it's the fitting hardware thats differentiates a 1pc to a 3piece kit as 3 piece cranks use a spindle which is narrower than the internal part of a 1 piece crank arm hence the fitting bolts etc have a smaller diameter .....


Basically can i use any BB cup ???

Cheers

Bloody hell 10 views & no replies, surely the answer is not that difficult ?I'm only looking for a yes or no  ??? ??? ??? ??? Anyone.....????

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 12:31 PM »
okay, i think (and someone will correct me if i'm wrong) that all loose ball BB's use the same cups.

Sealed bearing US BB's use a completely diferent sort of cup as the face that the bearing sits on is machined flat rather than a rounded cup for loose ball cages.

hope that makes sense (and is correct)  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2013, 12:40 PM »
I've heard the argument that Tange BB's use "proper" Tange cups but personally I think that was tosh as i've swapped so many around over the years but left the cups in situ and i've never had a problem - thats talking loose ball.

Sealed is a different matter and the internal cup profile can vary depending on the manufacturer - I always remove the cups that came with a sealed BB and keep the sets together.

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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2013, 12:41 PM »
agree, with sealed bearings that have cups rather than new school where most of them press into the frame, i would keep the cups with the bearings  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2013, 12:43 PM »
open cage bearings all use the same sized US bb cups so are fully interchangeable :daumenhoch:


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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2013, 12:53 PM »

Bloody hell 10 views & no replies, surely the answer is not that difficult ?I'm only looking for a yes or no  ??? ??? ??? ??? Anyone.....????

Did you punch the screen...?!

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 12:55 PM »
open cage bearings all use the same sized US bb cups so are fully interchangeable :daumenhoch:

Yep, agree with that. I have swapped, bought or traded framesets that still had the cups left in, I left in, and I used them, they used them. They all fit all looseball cages  :daumenhoch:
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 12:56 PM »
open cage bearings all use the same sized US bb cups so are fully interchangeable :daumenhoch:

Yep, agree with that. I have swapped, bought or traded framesets that still had the cups left in, I left in, and I used them, they used them. They all fit all looseball cages  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 12:57 PM »

Bloody hell 10 views & no replies, surely the answer is not that difficult ?I'm only looking for a yes or no  ??? ??? ??? ??? Anyone.....????

Did you punch the screen...?!
Almost  :2gunsfiring_v1: :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 12:58 PM »
Bullshit!

You speak it lots, yes  ::)
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 12:59 PM »
There you go - four of us telling you you're good to go and then there's Rich... I'm surprised he didn't contribute with a comment about jelly beans, tree rings or argyle socks...  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 12:59 PM »
Ok great so the general consensus is that most bb cups will work with most open bearing set ups.

That's cool thanks gents !  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2013, 01:02 PM »
Ok great so the general consensus is that most bb cups will work with most open bearing set ups.

That's cool thanks gents !  :daumenhoch:

Consensus is all looseball cups will work with open cage bearings

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2013, 01:06 PM »
Ok great so the general consensus is that most bb cups will work with most open bearing set ups.

That's cool thanks gents !  :daumenhoch:

Consensus is all looseball cups will work with open cage bearings

Ha-ha where's the (like) button when you need one  ::)

Anyone got any new bb cups to sell?

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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2013, 01:38 PM »
Fookin hell Callum...... just send me a list of everything you need to finish your builds off.

I'll delay posting that shite to you and have a look tonight for a set to chuck in the envelope FoC if I have some...... despite the fact that you will probably haggle on the free price :2funny: :2funny:

Yes, they are all the same size internally where the bearings sit :daumenhoch:

If I can't find any, your local bike shop will have some for next to nowt ::)

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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2013, 02:15 PM »
Fookin hell Callum...... just send me a list of everything you need to finish your builds off.

I'll delay posting that shite to you and have a look tonight for a set to chuck in the envelope FoC if I have some...... despite the fact that you will probably haggle on the free price :2funny: :2funny:

Yes, they are all the same size internally where the bearings sit :daumenhoch:

If I can't find any, your local bike shop will have some for next to nowt ::)

Spen

Do you know what, I when i wrote that last post I nearly finished with "Cue Seen who will undoubtably have some & will want to sell them to me pending a further haggle on our previous deal" !   Brilliant that you chipped in here :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: Mucha appreciated mate  :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:




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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2013, 02:20 PM »

Do you know what, I when i wrote that last post I nearly finished with "Cue Seen who will undoubtably have some & will want to sell them to me pending a further haggle on our previous deal" !   Brilliant that you chipped in here :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: :LolLolLolLol: Mucha appreciated mate  :daumenhoch: :daumenhoch:


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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2013, 02:39 PM »
Rich, Callum can't spell yet bless him.

Seen means Spen. Poor lad. He has trouble with shoe laces as well I hear......
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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2013, 02:52 PM »
He has trouble with shoe laces as well I hear......
That's why I still use Velcro straps on my shoes  :D
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2013, 10:41 PM »
He has trouble with shoe laces as well I hear......
That's why I still use Velcro straps on my shoes  :D

Can't wait til I progress to Velcro straps .... 😉

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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2013, 10:47 PM »
He has trouble with shoe laces as well I hear......
That's why I still use Velcro straps on my shoes  :D

Can't wait til I progress to Velcro straps .... 😉

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2013, 10:55 PM »
No one in Syson is allowed velcro.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2013, 11:12 PM »
No one in Syson is allowed velcro.

So I've heard, it' dangerous in the hands of the un educated.  :idiot2: :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2013, 11:20 PM »
not all 3 piece kits are sealed bearing. i ve had 3 piece with cage bearings. in this case they look the same !

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