Author Topic: Redline flight 401 help needed please (Read 4348 times)

factory pilot · « **on:** January 24, 2013, 08:37 PM »

I have been potentially offered some nice redline 401 single pinch flight crank arms.....

1. What should I be paying for a nice set ?
2. Which ones are the earlist/rarest ?
3. What should I be paying for near a nos Redline chainwheel ?
4. Can I use a modern redline spindle and modern redline bottom bracket to fit them or will this be problematic ?

All help is greatly appreciated..am seeing the guy on Saturday and don't want to be mugged or ripped off

cheers Antony

brass monkey! · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2013, 08:45 PM »

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=26518.0

Check the link above

factory pilot · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2013, 08:51 PM »

cheers dude...will have a good read

many thanks

factory pilot · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2013, 08:57 PM »

Okay so values ...any help please ? what should i be paying ?
Modern spindles/bb sets do they fit....still none the wiser?

help really appreciated and needed guys please

hunterdubber · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2013, 11:00 PM »

On here For just full wrap crank arms and BB £220 nice survivor to about £280 for minty and somewhere in between for re-chromed I'd say

Late 80's early 90's half wrap between £150 and £200

Early rare pinchless cranks anything between £300 and probably £400

Early bubblefont chainwheel condition depending £30 upwards for a 42T or 45T to maybe £60 for a nice tidy 44T

Don't get me wrong you will see higher prices being asked , but not selling till

an offer being made or reduction

400's on the other hand go for £350 and up ,

, even though BITD they were cheaper and were known to snap where the integral alloy spider meets the cro mo arm

deeman · « **Reply #5 on:** January 25, 2013, 12:22 AM »

Mint or rechromed 401's £350 to £450 with BB and spindle
With techmatic BB add another £50-£100
With a mint bubble font chainwheel add £60-£100

Modern spindles for twin pinch flights will not fit as far as i know

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #6 on:** January 25, 2013, 12:25 AM »

Used chainwheels going for a ton on fleabay regularly these days!

deeman · « **Reply #7 on:** January 25, 2013, 12:29 AM »

Quote from: nickswan1 on January 25, 2013, 12:25 AM

Used chainwheels going for a ton on fleabay regularly these days!

yup,I paid £120 for a 43t.I saw a 44t go for £160

58 delray · « **Reply #8 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:30 AM »

Quote from: deeman on January 25, 2013, 12:22 AM

Mint or rechromed 401's £350 to £450 with BB and spindle
With techmatic BB add another £50-£100
With a mint bubble font chainwheel add £60-£100

Modern spindles for twin pinch flights will not fit as far as i know

modern spindles do fit :daumenhoch

factory pilot · « **Reply #9 on:** January 25, 2013, 10:47 AM »

Top info fellas

Really really appreciate it radsters

I think he's asking £100 for the chainring which is as near nos as can be (42t) so I'll grab it.

not sure on the crank arms think he's got early and later ones so will memorise the info before I go

58delray....definitely the 19mm spindle and bb fit then ? .......great stuff if they do

has anyone else fitted new spindles/bbs to old flights before ?......is it a piece of cake or will I have to bugger about a bit so they fit ?

cheers again to you all
Antony

58 delray · « **Reply #10 on:** January 25, 2013, 12:02 PM »

Quote from: Factory Pilot on January 25, 2013, 10:47 AM

Top info fellas

Really really appreciate it radsters

I think he's asking £100 for the chainring which is as near nos as can be (42t) so I'll grab it.

not sure on the crank arms think he's got early and later ones so will memorise the info before I go

58delray....definitely the 19mm spindle and bb fit then ? .......great stuff if they do

has anyone else fitted new spindles/bbs to old flights before ?......is it a piece of cake or will I have to bugger about a bit so they fit ?

cheers again to you all
Antony

i will get some pics done tonight showing old arms on a new spindle

Spen69 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 25, 2013, 12:22 PM »

Andy, I'm not doubting you mate, but I thought the single-pinch 401's didn't quite fit the new 6-spline 19mm spindles and BB's as the 6 "teeth" effectively were slightly different

Great news if they do fit though mate - you learn something new every day and the modern sealed BB's are available for change out of £15 all over ebay.

I bought a rough as a badger's ass set of 401's and full dimple spindle / BB off here a while ago for £220. They needed stripping, tidying, polishing and re-chroming but they were structurally perfect.

As for later ones, I've had several sets of single pinch half-wraps from £100 to £200 so make sure you are getting the original 80's 401's and not the later half-wraps..... still an awesome crank (I still ride two sets of them regularly) but they are worth considerably less.

58 delray · « **Reply #12 on:** January 25, 2013, 01:12 PM »

i have had modern twin pinch on an old spindle/bb so i assume they fit the other way around, but will confirm this or other wise when i have a play this evening mate

58 delray · « **Reply #13 on:** January 25, 2013, 01:19 PM »

thinking about it, it may have been a mid school spindle ? will check it all out and update this evening

deeman · « **Reply #14 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:24 PM »

Quote from: 58delray on January 25, 2013, 01:19 PM

thinking about it, it may have been a mid school spindle ? will check it all out and update this evening

I think you have a proline spindle Andy

Spen69 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 25, 2013, 03:36 PM »

Doesn't a Proline spindle have 19mm spline areas but step up to a 20mm bearing area on the spindle?

58 delray · « **Reply #16 on:** January 25, 2013, 04:06 PM »

Quote from: deeman on January 25, 2013, 03:24 PM

Quote from: 58delray on January 25, 2013, 01:19 PM
thinking about it, it may have been a mid school spindle ? will check it all out and update this evening

I think you have a proline spindle Andy

nope its not a proline spindle, i know that for sure

factory pilot · « **Reply #17 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:13 PM »

am now aware I need the 80s full wrap 401 cranks for sure...but not 100% convinced about the new bb/spindles fitting now

Can we get a confirmation otherwise I'll walk away and wait for a full matching set

I'm hoping you are right Andy as it'll save a whole heap of money/ball ache

anybody else put old with new on here ?

cheers Ant

58 delray · « **Reply #18 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:16 PM »

will let you know for sure either way when i get home from work this evening

hunterdubber · « **Reply #19 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:20 PM »

You see 80's 401 BB's on their own come up now and then on Ebay

Sounds with those prices people have been paying too much .

The prices I quoted were from cranks I've seen sold in 2012 , so not old prices

Spen69 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 25, 2013, 07:45 PM »

Quote from: Hunterdubber on January 25, 2013, 07:20 PM

You see 80's 401 BB's on their own come up now and then on Ebay

Sounds with those prices people have been paying too much .

The prices I quoted were from cranks I've seen sold in 2012 , so not old prices

Yep, agree with you 100% Chris. A £40 Butts chrome job would have made mine mintola again so total cost £260

factory pilot · « **Reply #21 on:** January 25, 2013, 08:11 PM »

Quote from: Hunterdubber on January 25, 2013, 07:20 PM

You see 80's 401 BB's on their own come up now and then on Ebay

Sounds with those prices people have been paying too much .

The prices I quoted were from cranks I've seen sold in 2012 , so not old prices

Good to know both these sets of facts if Andy doesn't come up trumps. I guess if you're patient you can eventually get (nearly)
everything for a good and proper price

Will look at this guys' prices and the quality and make a decision.

Devilock · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2013, 11:39 PM »

What are they for Antony...?

deeman · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2013, 11:46 PM »

Quote from: Devilock on January 25, 2013, 11:39 PM

What are they for Antony...?

Never mind that,you of all people should be able to answer the mans question!!

Devilock · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2013, 11:53 PM »

Quote from: deeman on January 25, 2013, 11:46 PM

Quote from: Devilock on January 25, 2013, 11:39 PM
What are they for Antony...?

Never mind that,you of all people should be able to answer the mans question!!

Sowry, I doont oonderstind...I doont spake ainglish...