Author Topic: Kuwahara KYZ KY 2 ?? ..... Now built :-) (Read 21442 times)

Cleedubber · « **Reply #50 on:** November 14, 2012, 10:29 PM »

Quote from: Stidds on November 14, 2012, 10:02 PM

I like that a lot, but please pull those bars back a bit, it looks too much like a Burner with them forward like that

jimwise68 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 14, 2012, 10:41 PM »

You done a nice job there and they are very nice bikes. Had one very similar to that and made an Elliot replica. Lovely bikes to ride the Kuwaharas

rad_pitt · « **Reply #52 on:** November 15, 2012, 12:23 AM »

Cleedubber · « **Reply #53 on:** April 04, 2013, 10:21 PM »

ooooooh

Look what rubbery delights the postie dropped at my house today for the Kuwie

Andy68 · « **Reply #54 on:** April 05, 2013, 08:35 AM »

Mattdub · « **Reply #55 on:** April 05, 2013, 08:39 AM »

Quote from: Stidds on November 14, 2012, 10:02 PM

I like that a lot, but please pull those bars back a bit, it looks too much like a Burner with them forward like that

Nice work done , looks real good but those bars forward like that look

Mattdub · « **Reply #56 on:** April 05, 2013, 08:39 AM »

Quote from: cleedubber on April 04, 2013, 10:21 PM

ooooooh

Look what rubbery delights the postie dropped at my house today for the Kuwie

What make/model of tyre is that ? ( IRC ? ) ...........

dannyrobo2012 · « **Reply #57 on:** April 05, 2013, 10:53 AM »

you off roading it mate

Jaan · « **Reply #58 on:** April 05, 2013, 12:26 PM »

Ruddy gorgeous mate, love the new tyres

KeithyT · « **Reply #59 on:** April 05, 2013, 12:41 PM »

Already commented on rb.com but this looks fantastic. Love the KYZ looptails.

Given me a good benchmark once I start polishing the KZ

Cleedubber · « **Reply #60 on:** April 06, 2013, 07:25 AM »

Quote from: Mattdub on April 05, 2013, 08:39 AM

Quote from: cleedubber on April 04, 2013, 10:21 PM
ooooooh

Look what rubbery delights the postie dropped at my house today for the Kuwie

What make/model of tyre is that ? ( IRC ? ) ...........

Yes mate NOS IRC BMX RACER Z-1

Wez · « **Reply #61 on:** April 07, 2013, 03:42 PM »

Fricken awesome

hmmm Ive still got the cromo doin nothing....
now wheres that hot heart template i had made ? muhahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Macmania · « **Reply #62 on:** April 07, 2013, 03:49 PM »

Just seen this

Great resto. Love it when all the original parts just get a bit of elbow grease

Cleedubber · « **Reply #63 on:** April 23, 2013, 12:21 PM »

Some pics of the tyres fitted....now just to find some pads

KeithyT · « **Reply #64 on:** April 23, 2013, 03:36 PM »

That looks great. Love the KYZ looptail

monkian · « **Reply #65 on:** April 23, 2013, 03:55 PM »

Man that looks great. Tyres finish it off a treat

Cleedubber · « **Reply #66 on:** April 23, 2013, 04:03 PM »

Thanks guys.... couldn't resist taking some more in the sun

bodamus · « **Reply #67 on:** April 23, 2013, 05:44 PM »

Looks great mate with the tyres fitted

Clean · « **Reply #68 on:** April 23, 2013, 05:46 PM »

At the risk of displaying gross ignorance, isn't a KYZ meant to have Z-Rims?

As I am now the owner of a restored factory spec '83 Nova, an original survivor ET Replica, and a Kuwie welded KZ-1, and have done lots of research over the last few months........

I can see the following on your build:

KZ2.5 ET Frameset (note there is no small cable hole in the front gusset and it is looptailed; this is NOT a KZ1, KZ2, KZ3 or KZ4)

Forks? Tange TX500 / 1200?

Ukai chromed steel wheels, Seatpost Clamp, Saddle, OPC and Chainring as those supplied on the ET Replica Model

WIN Stem, Lazer Bars and KKT Pedals as those supplied on a 1983 Nova Model

890s as per both models, and Tech IIIs as per Nova

I could be wrong, but this bike looks like a mash up of ET Frameset and components, and Nova components; given that the Framest is a T83 this would make sense; a sort of sunset on the ET and dawn on the Nova.

For the record I can find no information about this model anywhere on the web, and Jamie's site is no help either. Am I being super dumb here, and missing something? Thoughts?

I reckon this could be a super rare unknown model.

Could on of RAD's Kuwie whizzkids please clarify?

Cleedubber · « **Reply #69 on:** April 23, 2013, 06:05 PM »

Quote from: Clean on April 23, 2013, 05:46 PM

At the risk of displaying gross ignorance, isn't a KYZ meant to have Z-Rims?

As I am now the owner of a restored factory spec '83 Nova, an original survivor ET Replica, and a Kuwie welded KZ-1, and have done lots of research over the last few months........

I can see the following on your build:

KZ2.5 ET Frameset (note there is no small cable hole in the front gusset and it is looptailed; this is NOT a KZ1, KZ2, KZ3 or KZ4)

Ukai chromed steel wheels, Seatpost Clamp, Saddle, OPC and Chainring as those supplied on the ET Replica Model

WIN Stem, Lazer Bars and KKT Pedals as those supplied on a 1983 Nova Model

890s as per both models, and Tech IIIs as per Nova

I could be wrong, but this bike looks like a mash up of ET Frameset and components, and Nova components; given that the Framest is a T83 this would make sense; a sort of sunset on the ET and dawn on the Nova.

For the record I can find no information about this model anywhere on the web, and Jamie's site is no help either. Am I being super dumb here, and missing something? Thoughts?

I reckon this could be a super rare unknown model.

Could on of RAD's Kuwie whizzkids please clarify?

Well thanks for the thread bash

I have been down a similiar road with this one buddy
I posted on BMX Museum and got a few different opinions....... none of these were conclusive.... hence my thread title with lots ?? $:-\$

I came across it and it had been stored in a ladies loft for the last 25 years as she thought the bike shop was taking the p**s with what they offered her when she bought her son a new race BMX...... (GT ) it had ET pads fitted to it which she couldn't find.... her son put those on instead of the standard ones...... again couldn't find them.... yes slightly gutted
She did say that he didn't change anything else on any of the bikes he owned/raced.

I've seen a very nice KYZ, and yes that had Z Rims fitted

I really have no idea what the 100% correct parts build is for this bike, as to agree with your post, it appears to be a bit of a mish mash of parts $:-\$ ....
After a few pm's with a knowledgable Kuwie guy ( elliot username) on BMX Museum, he said most Kuwies of this era were fitted with IRC BMX Racer tyres.... and they're like the prevebial rocking horse s**t.... so I kept a look out, never actually expecting to find any

If Any of you Kuwie oracles can shed any more light I'd be grateful

I like the thought of it being a super rare model though

TBH I was just more than happy to have found such a cracking survivor Kuwie, which just needed some TLC and elbow grease to bring back to its former glory

KeithyT · « **Reply #70 on:** April 23, 2013, 07:14 PM »

I think this is a 1983 KYZ. The only way to be sure if its a true KYZ (which were half cromoly) is probably to compare the weight to a high tensile steel ET.

If you look at a guy called Gooser's posts on the museum, he has posted up the original Kuwahara spec sheet and photo for this model. Just to confuse things even more Kuwahara actually gave it the model name of KE-1 (!) - the original Kuwahara bike was never calked the KE-1 on any product sheet, but this looptail model became officially known as the KYZ, very quickly.

As for parts the original Kuwie sheet and photo did not have the z rims I seem to recall - http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=122525&p=2 But of course the now iconic ad from UK mags with the chequered Cali lite pads, snowflake chainring AND z rims as standard is ingrained into memories.

I find lots of conflicting info with early 80s Kuwahara specs, maybe it's cos you could get different options on the Kuwie BMX part kits.

Even the smaller gusset hole absence can be a red herring, some KYZ's have it and others don't.

That's my tuppence at any rate, and I'm not stating it as gospel. I'm only putting it out there as what I've read so far.

Clean · « **Reply #71 on:** April 23, 2013, 07:47 PM »

Quote from: cleedubber on April 23, 2013, 06:05 PM

Well thanks for the thread bash

I have been down a similiar road with this one buddy
I posted on BMX Museum and got a few different opinions....... none of these were conclusive.... hence my thread title with lots ?? $:-\$

I came across it and it had been stored in a ladies loft for the last 25 years as she thought the bike shop was taking the p**s with what they offered her when she bought her son a new race BMX...... (GT ) it had ET pads fitted to it which she couldn't find.... her son put those on instead of the standard ones...... again couldn't find them.... yes slightly gutted
She did say that he didn't change anything else on any of the bikes he owned/raced.

I've seen a very nice KYZ, and yes that had Z Rims fitted

I really have no idea what the 100% correct parts build is for this bike, as to agree with your post, it appears to be a bit of a mish mash of parts $:-\$ ....
After a few pm's with a knowledgable Kuwie guy ( elliot username) on BMX Museum, he said most Kuwies of this era were fitted with IRC BMX Racer tyres.... and they're like the prevebial rocking horse s**t.... so I kept a look out, never actually expecting to find any

If Any of you Kuwie oracles can shed any more light I'd be grateful

I like the thought of it being a super rare model though

TBH I was just more than happy to have found such a cracking survivor Kuwie, which just needed some TLC and elbow grease to bring back to its former glory

Sorry, mate; I never intended to bash your thread, and I apologise if that's how I came across.

I was trying to help identify what you had based on the understanding I have kind of developed with my last few bikes and researching of them.

I think it is a rare combination that should be cherished for its uniqueness.

Nice find, and cleans up a treat, whatever it is!

Cleedubber · « **Reply #72 on:** April 23, 2013, 08:23 PM »

Quote from: Clean on April 23, 2013, 07:47 PM

Sorry, mate; I never intended to bash your thread, and I apologise if that's how I came across. I was trying to help identify what you had based on the understanding I have kind of developed with my last few bikes and researching of them.

I think it is a rare combination that should be cherished for its uniqueness.

Nice find, and cleans up a treat, whatever it is

I was only messing buddy

Absolutely no need to apologise

Its been a mystery to me from when I first got , exactly what it actually is $:-\$
As Keith T says, there seems to be quite a bit of conflicting info, but if there seemed to be more guys pulling towards this being a KYZ.... I really have no idea...

I appreciate your input, thanks for your comments

I will cherish it , it has quickly become one of my favourite bikes

plus I just love survivors