S&M frame No id

[gary67]

Can anyone tell me what frame number id this is - HXL 8239 

[Gish]

thats a holmes frame id 

[harris]

holmes extra long  get a pic up

[gary67]

Thats what i thought it was being "HXL".Wasnt a very good pic when advertised as a S&M,thought it was a dirtbike until pickup,then got home an looked at id number.
 Quic pick

[harris]

next gen beefy

[dordymush]

is there two different sizes of holmes then ?.
mine has a XL on the serial too.

[Gish]

all holmes are HXL as far as i'm aware

[gary67]

Is there many of these about?

[harris]

yip,plenty,i think alot are just tucked away holding up walls but a good solid rig.

[Dark Diggler]

Betty's Holmes was 20.75TT, mine is 21" so HL and HXL ? (maybe not in serial no but deffo in length)

[gary67]

Will give it clean up etc tomorrow,knackered after going up the M1 to sheffield and back to get it,and i didnt have to drive lol

[SaMAlex]

That's a next Gen Holmes. You don't see many of those about. Or not as many as you see Next Gen Dirtbikes

The "XL" is because the Holmes frame was the extra long S&M frame.

There weren't "different length" Holmes or Dirtbikes, but both frame sets changed length over the years. (generally, they got longer as time went on).

[teamsano]

That's a next Gen Holmes. You don't see many of those about. Or not as many as you see Next Gen Dirtbikes

The "XL" is because the Holmes frame was the extra long S&M frame.

There weren't "different length" Holmes or Dirtbikes, but both frame sets changed length over the years. (generally, they got longer as time went on).

exactly.

the dirt bike was the regular size frame, with the holmes being the xl version. both the front and rear ends gradually extended over the years, e.g.with a 93 dirt bike being the same size as a 92 holmes.

[gary67]

When did the NG ones come out 97-98 ish?

[SaMAlex]

When did the NG ones come out 97-98 ish?

Yep. I got mine, hot off the press in 97.

[gary67]

When did the NG ones come out 97-98 ish?

Yep. I got mine, hot off the press in 97.

But did you like riding it Alex?

[GINGERHOLMES]

i have two of these, they are mosters, but still good to ride 

[SaMAlex]

When did the NG ones come out 97-98 ish?

Yep. I got mine, hot off the press in 97.

But did you like riding it Alex?

Nope, I hated it 

I was never worried about weight but my NG frame was just too much and it was real hard work to ride.
And the short front end and long back end didnt help matters at all 

From the NG dirtbike I went back to a normal (Oversized) dirtbike, then to a Challenger, just to try and get rid of some weight (even though both those frames were still pretty heavy).

After that I had a Bennet and a PBR, both of which were tanks.
I wasnt really happy till I got my LAF, which was GREAT! 

[SaMAlex]

And the short front end and long back end didnt help matters at all 

I bet the NG Holmes rides nicer than the NG Dirtbike. The only reason I never rode a Holmes was cos I was worried about the long back end, but now any Holmes rides way better than old Dirtbikes.

[gary67]

We'll see how it stacks up against the Bennett when fettling has finished ;)What was the NG Holmes main riding purpose for trails?
  Now i've taken the forks off,cant see any stamping anywhere so need to id these.Any eagle eyed among us can tell me what make these forks are??

[kev-s]

mk3  s&m ditchforks 1&1/8th version

[gary67]

mk3  s&m ditchforks 1&1/8th version

Well done that man,was hoping they were some kinda S&M version etc.I'm a happy chappy now

[gary67]

Now to nitromors the stem and turn it back into a red redneck

[gary67]

Oh yeah,anyone have pics of what decals they came with?

[kev-s]

any of the 2 on the left or the plain txt one on the bottom