Doing work for others

[Darren KAP]

 As most of you probably already know i don't mind helping other Radsters out with repairs and spraying  to there frames etc and to be totally honest i really enjoy doing it plus it gives me some extra pp fundage . I never charge what i could be earning as i do it as n when i get chance . I posted in the messers section earlier agreeing that yes that 99% on Rad are spot on to deal with etc  but i've now got another problem where i've done work etc for some who's not playing the game as i made the mistake of posting out or letting them collect and pay me a little later ,  i also put that i've got 4 who are not coming forward with the cash  and that i won't name them just yet ,

 Well to my surprise 1 of them then texts me about what i've put , so it proves this certain Radster can get in touch when it suits him .

 Well today it's come to ahead i want it sorting i'm sick of being given the run around   

 What are your thoughts guys  as my heads really fooked over this and it's really spoiling my hobby

[bobbysam]

Never been stung but I'm with you all the way, this site should be about helping and appreciating that help, name and shame and fook them.

[Andy68]

Oh dear Kappy, not good............  
















Done mine yet?  

[skki3330]

I would not ask someone to do me some work unless i had the cash there ready
Been stung myself with another hobby so peeps do get stuff until i see the cash.
If you have tried getting in touch with them and it's obvious they are avoiding you name and shame dont help them out again. Peeps like dat only spoil it forthe rest of us as you might just stop helping everyone  

[snav69]

Get um named  

Maybe they have a reason for not paying  

I know I've let people take Bikes and Parts from me and they haven't paid for weeks with promises of payment  I had to chase them too 

[stu27]

fooking name them
the other thing i would say is that after all euphoria of getting into this scene descends
the community can seem not as tight as we would like

[NORTY40]

I would not ask someone to do me some work unless i had the cash there ready

I would be the same 

Shame you have to post this Darren , it's meant to be a hobby and a bit of fun at the end of the day with lads helping each other out . Never had any bad dealings on here myself and i do believe the majority of RADsters are genuine top lads but there will always be a few who will take the p155

[Jaypeg]

That's what happens when people take advantage of your good nature... Don't go changing mate its the git who isn't paying you that needs to sort it out . I  hope there is a valid reason behind the non payment ... Stay cool.

[chubby]

name em shame em fook em  
seems that people who go out of their way to be helpful always get a shafting.....

[In2 bmx]

Name and shame mate so they can't fook everyone over  .. 

there's Some back stabbing clicky fookers on here ..

[oldschoolace]

Get the money up front Darren.
I imagine unless its an unknown like our kids celica you can give a pretty accurate price or at least ask for 3/4 of what you think it may be. I never start any work without at least 50% up front no matter what the job is  

[snav69]

there's Some back stabbing clicky fookers on here ..

Correct 

[Bob_Acid]

There's also a lot of muggy cnuts   

[Bob_Acid]

But plenty of rad fookers too eh? 


if only it was a perfek world....

[Bob_Acid]

I'd have a massive one if it was

But i digress....

[Darren KAP]

Get the money up front Darren.
I imagine unless its an unknown like our kids celica you can give a pretty accurate price or at least ask for 3/4 of what you think it may be. I never start any work without at least 50% up front no matter what the job is  

   
  When it's a car build i ask for 1K as part payment but it's non returnable  , but i've never asked in the 19 years of being in business for cash up front for repairs / spraying etc i just fund it .

 
 

[Bob_Acid]

So you've painted peoples bikes and sent them back without payment?

[Darren KAP]

So you've painted peoples bikes and sent them back without payment?

   yes plus loads of bits too ,

[Cleedubber]

It's sad to see things like this posted   

I think the only answer in future is to give people a defined deadline of when they'll have to pay, or if they can't get the funds to you, then the job has to go on hold until they can

I know some people are desperate to get their bike finished, but if they can't fund the build, then they can't fund the build, it has to be as simple as that surely 

Its one thing doing a favour to help fellow Radsters, its another to be left out of pocket for doing that favour.....thats just wrong, I feel for your dilema man

[Devilock]

So you've painted peoples bikes and sent them back without payment?

   yes plus loads of bits too ,

 

[Bob_Acid]

  bit strong maybe...


i'll delete that till you get paid

[dordymush]

lol your on form tonight bob

[Bob_Acid]

You know me Dave 

[oldschoolace]

Get the money up front Darren.
I imagine unless its an unknown like our kids celica you can give a pretty accurate price or at least ask for 3/4 of what you think it may be. I never start any work without at least 50% up front no matter what the job is  

   
  When it's a car build i ask for 1K as part payment but it's non returnable  , but i've never asked in the 19 years of being in business for cash up front for repairs / spraying etc i just fund it .

 
 

I hear you Darren and i used to be exactly the same but have been in too many situations in the past with people playing silly buggers. Thankfully since i started my own business all the customers i have seem to be great and a few have become friends but back when i fitted kitchens and bedrooms it was another story.
I'm a cabinet maker not a bailiff and i hated standing in a customers house demanding money. On a few occasions the company i worked for told me to start to remove the work if the customer started acting up..... its amazing how quickly these people found the money once you called their bluff.

The long and short of it is you are providing a service (and a good one at that) so if people are not prepared to show faith in you by handing over a deposit, why should you show faith in them out of your own pocket.

It sounds harsh i know but not one of my customers has ever had any problem with deposits and it leaves me safe in the knowledge that my materials and some of my time are covered should something happen 

[hotdog]

It's bad enough them not paying you but when they've not even got the common courtesy of getting on the blower to explain why and you're the one spending time and money doing the job and then chasing them for money... it's a  proper wind-up! They're not only taking the pesh out of you Darren but also out of the way this forum/community runs. Get 'em named and then they might just get they're finger out.