Author Topic: Ur top 3 bikes from MK12 (Read 9982 times)

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #50 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:12 PM »

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2012, 08:09 PM

There was nothing in the rules about bikes with repop parts not being eligible to win the S and S.

x2

pickle · « **Reply #51 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:14 PM »

There are no rules about show n shine, other than year and category.

Those were the judges criteria that's all. It's a tough job which I would not want to do! You will never please everyone

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:20 PM »

I could have saved myself a tenner, all my bikes look like they have crashed in Porkchops stock room.

pickle · « **Reply #53 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:24 PM »

I Look at it like I do BOTM, I only enter for shytes n giggles and it if no one entered cos they thought they won't win then we'd have hardly any bikes to look at over the weekend.

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #54 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:27 PM »

How about a Concours class for those who are lucky enough to have those NOS era correct parts. Then some leeway can be given to the other categories to allow those on a modest budget have a chance of recognition.

Just a thought!

pickle · « **Reply #55 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:31 PM »

That's what the medals were for. It's never going to please everyone.

We did a survivor class a few years back but it was impossible to distinguish what was actually a true survivor

A bike built with old parts is not a survivor in my book.........a survivor is a complete bike still as it was from BITD, warts and all just dusted down. It caused a lot of Grief so was dropped and I wouldn't think it'll be back.

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:37 PM »

The medal system failed Rob IMO as there was a bike with a medal on that had repop grips, the seat guts were on backwards and the cables were incorrectly routed.

It's details like that judges should notice.

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #57 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:41 PM »

Rob, I agree completely with your definition of a survivor.

stidds · « **Reply #58 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:10 PM »

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2012, 08:09 PM

There was nothing in the rules about bikes with repop parts not being eligible to win the S and S.

Of course there wasn't, however as a judge of the S&S if I saw a bike with orignal parts and one with repop parts then it stands to reason (and common sense) that the original one would place higher.

As for the 'medal system', I personally gave medals to bikes that I really liked regardless of the parts on them (whether repops or not), in my eyes it was an acknowlegment of a really nice looking bike.

However bikes with repop, completely era incorrect, etc is never going to win the one of the top 3 trophies.

Look at it this way, if I had a classic VW beetle and took it to a VW show and entered it in their S&S do you really think it would win anything if it had modern bucket seats, modern alloys, repop wings and doors etc? Of course it wouldn't.

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #59 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:13 PM »

Fair point Sean.

stidds · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:16 PM »

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2012, 09:13 PM

Fair point Sean.

Don't agree with me, I just talk sh*t most of the time

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:19 PM »

kungfunky · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:20 PM »

Quote from: Stidds on August 23, 2012, 09:16 PM

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2012, 09:13 PM
Fair point Sean.
Don't agree with me, I just talk sh*t most of the time

Aint that the truth

I've said this before and maybe a "peoples" choice should be included into the trophies. Keep the judging as it is and give everyone else a vote using a ballot box, tally the votes up and the bike with the most wins something. That way everyone's had a say in what wins, just an idea. $:-\$

meticulous · « **Reply #63 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:21 PM »

should have had a 'best replica' class....

Badbaldie · « **Reply #64 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:22 PM »

Judges i dont envy you all for one minute , so many bikes at m.k. , and so many rare bikes too. but how about next year a new class.... "the bike id like to own the most ". no "rules" what i mean is it doesnt have to be era correct , repop decals pads etc doesnt come into it, freestyle parts mixed with race parts . it just doesnt matter . its a class were you just simply like the look of the bike no matter how wrong or right it is. Because lets face it thats how most of us ran our bikes bitd

just an idea ........ BUT A GOOD ONE

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:23 PM »

That's a great idea Ash, I will help count votes if this is executed.

pickle · « **Reply #66 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:25 PM »

Quote from: nickswan1 on August 23, 2012, 08:41 PM

Rob, I agree completely with your definition of a survivor.

The problem is nick, how can we tell if it's just been built with old parts or not just to try and win something

Ash, we tried that as well but it was open to abuse so we dropped it the next year as well

I honestly don't see any problem with what we have now, they have been the same for 3 years now. A bike doesn't have to be as it came from the shop, but an 80's bike with new twin pinch flights will not win.

kungfunky · « **Reply #67 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:30 PM »

SO it looks like my other idea for MK13 is far better then

meticulous · « **Reply #68 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:36 PM »

if i provide the trophies could i create my own class for next year?....

first class could be best 'bob haro et replica' class....

another class maybe best chrome VDC with red parts on and skyways....

hell, i might even win somethin.....

Badbaldie · « **Reply #69 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:37 PM »

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2012, 09:23 PM

That's a great idea Ash, I will help count votes if this is executed.

im sure you would help count Dan 1 , 2 miss a few 99 my G.T. wins

dordymush · « **Reply #70 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:39 PM »

Quote

but an 80's bike with new twin pinch flights will not win.

can i just say that them things and modern font a'me's are my bug bear.fookin do my head right in

markyp · « **Reply #71 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:41 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on August 23, 2012, 09:39 PM

Quote
but an 80's bike with new twin pinch flights will not win.

can i just say that them things and modern font a'me's are my bug bear.fookin do my head right in

+1

Gish · « **Reply #72 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:41 PM »

my favourite 3 bikes were

southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer

Retrodan72 · « **Reply #73 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:44 PM »

Quote from: Badbaldie on August 23, 2012, 09:37 PM

Quote from: Retrodan72 on August 23, 2012, 09:23 PM
That's a great idea Ash, I will help count votes if this is executed.

im sure you would help count Dan 1 , 2 miss a few 99 my G.T. wins

Obviously I'm not entering Len, so my independent counting skills are on hand if needed.

That Swan Guy · « **Reply #74 on:** August 23, 2012, 09:49 PM »

Quote from: gish link=topic=150150.msg1476375#msg1476375 doate=1345754494

my favourite 3 bikes were

southern andy's zeronine
in2bms redline squareback
JT smooths £28 POS racer

Back in the room