I dont want to bother mongoose royalty..................i talk and see a man named wazza regulary........i lower my head and listen to his every word every time we meet .You see my childhood was below the poverty line ..bikes were found out of bins and trash cans .........parts were found or dis-regrarded..my race bike had sticky tape...so my builds are at best their royalties worse.....but that was how i seen bmx rough cut and make -do...So forgive my writings as i was working at 16..and my bmxs are that.its strange the beatn trash can rusty bike is the one which tears me up....its as thou you can see its story........