Cheers for the help guys. I thought as much. When he bought it and rang me he said it had a bottom tube that was bent down then he said there were holes in the dropouts so i thought it was a gt performer to start with. then i went down to see it abd saw that. i said id ask on here jus incase it was owt decent but didnt look it. his lad is now racin it round aldersley schools track. my old school, wish theyd done that while we were there. We had fook all like that.