pro neck stem to good to be true

[d4vvs]

got my hands on a pro neck stem with pro neck patent pending engraved on it under the pro neck ,its mint and red most pro neck just have pro neck so whats the score with this its quality machine ingraved cheers on any help.

[BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN]

pic's 

[markyp]

should have squared off corners too,if so then its a nice early one,about 1980 ,like this one of mine

[snav69]

Is it one of the repops 

[BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN]

did wonder that

pic will clear it up 

[Devilock]

Yeah I had a blue one like Mark's...

[patto82]

should have squared off corners too,if so then its a nice early one,about 1980 ,like this one of mine

V/nice stem!!!!    I think you'll find its a 1979 or earlier mod..The reason i say this is i because i have a very fine example of a blue anno one says patend pending on my patterson long..Which i was told the square edged tuffneck stems dated back to 77/79.Correct me if i;m wrong,here,s mine.Cheers Jim.

[Gnarlyscoots]

[Devilock]

Stop using photos of my stems...!! 

[d4vvs]

carnt get pics up but can on my mob any chance sending them to you

[BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN]

Right here is the stem in question - looks very clean 




cheers B 

[markyp]

thats a repro ,the square ones were made by tufneck not pro neck as the red one says,they were repopped last year

[Devilock]

So d4vvs, how much did you pay...?

[snav69]

The repops where about £65 shipped from the states 

[hunterdubber]

should have squared off corners too,if so then its a nice early one,about 1980 ,like this one of mine

I'm sure Pro necks wern't out till a fair bit later Mark ,,,Pro neck stems weren't being manufactured till after the start Tiger head stamped Tufnecks were manufactured .
 So you won't find a square backed Pro neck . well not OG anyway  

[Glynnyboy]

And here's why.....

From Vintage bmx.com
This post also explains why some of the early unstamped Tuf necks square stems carried a decal of what later became the Pro Neck Bulldog.


Heres the text of the sidebar in the December '80 BMXA which asks the same question...

"PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICT

Two identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.
Pretty confusing, hey?
This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.
First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.
Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them.
But SUperbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.
Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.
Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.
All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.
At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.
This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.
So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.
At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.
Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.
Ah...what terrible tangled webs we weave. - Bob Osborn"


Reading this again myself just made me click about the double add taken out in one of the old bmx actions.
I thought when i 1st saw this, "why would two rival companies take out a joint add  "
I realised the add was letting everyone know about the change from tuf neck to pro neck and nothing to do with tuf neck who started to carry the tuf neck tiger  

[markyp]

should have squared off corners too,if so then its a nice early one,about 1980 ,like this one of mine

I'm sure Pro necks wern't out till a fair bit later Mark ,,,Pro neck stems weren't being manufactured till after the start Tiger head stamped Tufnecks were manufactured .
 So you won't find a square backed Pro neck . well not OG anyway  

id aready covered that christian

[hunterdubber]

     

I don't mind being put right 

I know better next time I open my gob 

[glenboy]

they did have the square corner pro neck  but hardly any , they were done on the changeover, heres a couple on a thread
http://bmxsociety.com/topic/50176-square-pro-neck/

i have an unstamped square cornered one which has the og bulldog prism decal doesn't say tuf neck on just has the bulldog so not sure if its a tuf neck or pro neck as the bulldog was generally used on the pro necks and the tiger on the the tuff necks  

[Glynnyboy]

i have an unstamped square cornered one which has the og bulldog prism decal doesn't say tuf neck on just has the bulldog so not sure if its a tuf neck or pro neck as the bulldog was generally used on the pro necks and the tiger on the the tuff necks  

The tiger was used by the other company called tuf neck.
The tuf neck company that used the bulldog then changed their name to pro neck and still used the bulldog just as they did when they were tuf neck.
So you have either a tuf neck or a pro neck but from the bob osborn quote we know you don't have a tuf neck (the tuf neck that took on the tiger i mean)
That bob osborn is right my head is starting to ache.
There's a tuf neck bulldog on the bay at the moment.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-RARE-SURVIVOR-1st-GEN-GOLD-TUF-NECK-SQUARE-CORNER-STEM-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-/190674833049?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c651b0e99#ht_6992wt_1396

[glenboy]

i have an unstamped square cornered one which has the og bulldog prism decal doesn't say tuf neck on just has the bulldog so not sure if its a tuf neck or pro neck as the bulldog was generally used on the pro necks and the tiger on the the tuff necks  

The tiger was used by the other company called tuf neck.
The tuf neck company that used the bulldog then changed their name to pro neck and still used the bulldog just as they did when they were tuf neck.
So you have either a tuf neck or a pro neck but from the bob osborn quote we know you don't have a tuf neck (the tuf neck that took on the tiger i mean)
That bob osborn is right my head is starting to ache.
There's a tuf neck bulldog on the bay at the moment.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-RARE-SURVIVOR-1st-GEN-GOLD-TUF-NECK-SQUARE-CORNER-STEM-OLD-SCHOOL-BMX-/190674833049?pt=UK_sportsleisure_cycling_bikeparts_SR&hash=item2c651b0e99#ht_6992wt_1396

   yep i'm confused as owt , mines the same as that gold one but has the prismatic sticcker with the bulldogs head but no wording on it , interesting read that even though i couldn't get me head around it 

[jimwise68]

$hit stems anyway 

Only had one on my Hutch racer and the stem bolt kept seizing up and sticking in the headtube. got rid and got a suntour power stem. 

[glenboy]

just got this square cornered pro neck...well pleased

[markyp]

just got this square cornered pro neck...well pleased

holy smoke,just messed myself,great find glen,bet that wasnt cheap

[hunterdubber]

holy smoke,just messed myself,great find glen,bet that wasnt cheap

It will have been if Glen bought it Mark ,,, he's shrewd as feck and sniffs out all the best deals no one else sees

He's a Burnley Bmx bad listed bay bargain buyer