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Offline BMX1973

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Tuff Neck / Pro Neck - What is the difference?
« on: July 07, 2012, 12:42 PM »
What is the difference beteween Tuff Neck / Pro Neck parts  :-\ ?

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Re: Tuff Neck / Pro Neck - What is the difference?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 01:22 PM »
Tuff neck are twice the price

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 01:48 PM »
Really good thread here - glynnyboy offers up some great info on both companies - than man knows his onions  8)

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=144592.msg1416300#msg1416300

And here's why.....

From Vintage bmx.com
This post also explains why some of the early unstamped Tuf necks square stems carried a decal of what later became the Pro Neck Bulldog.


Heres the text of the sidebar in the December '80 BMXA which asks the same question...

"PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICT

Two identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.
Pretty confusing, hey?
This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.
First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.
Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them.
But SUperbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.
Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.
Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.
All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.
At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.
This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.
So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.
At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.
Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.
Ah...what terrible tangled webs we weave. - Bob Osborn"


Reading this again myself just made me click about the double add taken out in one of the old bmx actions.
I thought when i 1st saw this, "why would two rival companies take out a joint add  :idiot2:"
I realised the add was letting everyone know about the change from tuf neck to pro neck and nothing to do with tuf neck who started to carry the tuf neck tiger  :shocked: ;)



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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 01:51 PM »
Tuf Tuf & Tuf again...!!!!  ::)

Really good thread here - glynnyboy offers up some great info on both companies - than man knows his onions  8)

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=144592.msg1416300#msg1416300

And here's why.....

From Vintage bmx.com
This post also explains why some of the early unstamped Tuf necks square stems carried a decal of what later became the Pro Neck Bulldog.


Heres the text of the sidebar in the December '80 BMXA which asks the same question...

"PRO-NECK AND TUF-NECK: AN IDENTITY CONFLICT

Two identical stems: the Pro-Neck and the Tuf-Neck Pro-Model. They both even use animals with studded collars in their logos. But they are manufactured by totally different companies.
Pretty confusing, hey?
This sidebar is a careful, hopefully objective, short history of how this came to be. Oversimplified, of course.
First there was Bakton Enterprises, the original designer and manufacturer of the original Tuf-Neck stem.
Then came a company called Superbyke which, in addition to its own products, purchased Tuf-Neck stems from Bakton Enterprises and marketed and distributed them.
But SUperbyke's management was not exactly clickin', and the company went down the tubes.
Whereupon one of the investors in Superbyke formed a new company and made arrangements with Bakton to purchase, market, and distribute Tuf-Neck stems. This new company was called Tuf-Neck, Inc.
Are you with us so far? This is where the plot thickens.
All this was cool until the defunct Superbyke company was purchased.
At this point the new owner began marketing and distributing an identical Tuf-Neck stem - not manufactured by Bakton - along with their other products.
This, of course, created a multitude of identity problems what with two companies advertising and distributing identical stems with identical names but manufactured by different companies.
So Tuf-Neck, Inc and Bakton Enterprises changed the design of their stem by radiusing the corners, and changed the name of the stem to Pro-Neck.
At this point the situation was thus: The Pro-Neck was distributed by Tuf-Neck, Inc., and the Tuf-Neck was distributed by Superbyke. Which wouldn't do at all. So Tuf-Neck, Inc. changed its name to Pro-Neck, Inc. and the identity conflict eased somewhat.
Until Superbyke came out with a newer version of the Tuf-Neck - with radiused corners, called the Pro-model Tuf-Neck.
Ah...what terrible tangled webs we weave. - Bob Osborn"


Reading this again myself just made me click about the double add taken out in one of the old bmx actions.
I thought when i 1st saw this, "why would two rival companies take out a joint add  :idiot2:"
I realised the add was letting everyone know about the change from tuf neck to pro neck and nothing to do with tuf neck who started to carry the tuf neck tiger  :shocked: ;)




Ill have to ask him if he knows what are the best onions...!  :D

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2012, 03:57 PM »

Thanks Chaps, that clears the name thing up.  :)
But which is the better quality on the later parts Tuf Neck or Pro Neck, or both the same? Should you pay more for one than the other?  :-\
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2012, 04:39 PM »

Thanks Chaps, that clears the name thing up.  :)
But which is the better quality on the later parts Tuf Neck or Pro Neck, or both the same? Should you pay more for one than the other?  :-\
 :daumenhoch:
about the same really.im a bigger fan of pro neck myself :smitten:
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 04:48 PM »

Thanks Chaps, that clears the name thing up.  :)
But which is the better quality on the later parts Tuf Neck or Pro Neck, or both the same? Should you pay more for one than the other?  :-\
 :daumenhoch:

You'll probably pay more for an earlier  square backed stem than a round back .  ::)

Never noticed a difference in Tuf or Pro neck quality to be honest  ???


You may pay more either ,,,depending if you like Tigers more than Bulldogs  ;)

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 11:14 PM »
cheers chaps, interesting. :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2012, 02:29 AM »
the pro neck bulldog stems with the bulldogs head on stamped very clearly are quite sought after and hard to get. There was an issue with these where the stamping didn't work out too well, then they stopped doing them so the one's that did turn out go for quite a bit.
The square early stems stamped pro neck are pretty rare too, i had heard about them but not seen one before, then in the last few month 3 of them surfaced on ebay usa. I managed to get hold of one for my team rampar, Toby and Jeff were sponsored by pro neck just after they changed to the name from being one of the two tuf neck companies.
here is marky p's bulldog  :smitten:


And an earlier square pro neck stamped stem like Glen's in the other thread. (i have seen a black, blue, red and silver of these now after not seeing one at all. I imagine they did gold too but haven't seen one yet)


I think the rest of the pro neck & tuf necks are pretty much personal preference but these two are a bit special.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2012, 02:35 AM by glynnyboy »

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