Thx guys, the Stolen has come out pretty good, ended up taking longer and costing more than expected but hey, that happens all the time!. The Hoffman I saw first but the person who owned it wanted loads of money for it and so I got the stolen one instead. Then of course half way through doing that he came back and offered it to me for a price I couldnt say no too. Havent found any other 16" Condors either apart from a couple in usa on the museum. It is a well made bike though it even has 14mm axles!!