Author Topic: murray stay holmes (Read 6848 times)

kev-s · « **on:** January 03, 2012, 06:47 PM »

just been looking at some murray stay holmes frames on bmxmuseum and noticed some come with headtube gussets and some without

Dannywhac · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2012, 06:58 PM »

In't that the same with some earlier MK1 Holmes as well (or am I talking b0llocks)?

kev-s · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2012, 07:46 PM »

not sure about the mk1 holmes, mine had a gusset and dont think ive seen one without, i know there was some early widowmakers without a gusset

SaMAlex · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2012, 08:53 PM »

Mk1 and mk2 dirtbikes were made with and without gussets. I think it was down to who made it, where it was made, what day of the week it was, and if they'd run out of gussets! Haha

kev-s · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2012, 09:05 PM »

lol thats prob why then

Betty · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2012, 10:32 PM »

Did you notice some of em have a tubular chain stay bridge and the seat tubes drilled for a cable

Mines a flat bridge, no hole in the seat tube

It has the front gussets but they've got hairline cracks...

kev-s · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2012, 05:02 AM »

it seems all the early s&m are mish mash of different tubing from slightly earlier or later models, maybe down to all the different manufactuers and chainging designs and then back etc...

havent seen hardly any mk3 holmes that differ from the norm so maybe thats when everything got standardised
the only one ive seen is that mk3 holmes on ebay with 2 peice dropouts and flat plate brake and seat stay bridges

Betty · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2012, 05:52 PM »

Mk3....

Did you spot this the other week?....

Never seen one with dropouts like this before?

Not to mention the serial.... or lack of one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250957329041'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

There's a 92 without gussets on the bay at the mo...

kev-s · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2012, 09:19 PM »

im sure that one has been on ebay before, i remember that gap!!!

its quite surprisng how much used to slip through the quality control back then, prob why moeller moved everything inhouse

Betty · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2012, 09:31 PM »

I didn't notice the gap, the welds round the outside of the dropouts haven't been smoothed out where the 2 dropouts were welded together.... i should have said in my earlier post...

Shocking quality control...

Good job they're no longer around today...

hunterdubber · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2012, 09:55 PM »

Mark you've got a proper cheek calling me a geek

Flat tubular chainstayed rear murray stay outside welded gusset mk1and 3/4 double dropouted unlugged Widowchallenger,,,,

made in 92 or 93 ?

Betty · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2012, 09:58 PM »

Quote from: Hunterdubber on January 04, 2012, 09:55 PM

Mark you've got a proper cheek calling me a geek

Flat tubular chainstayed rear murray stay outside welded gusset mk1and 3/4 double dropouted unlugged Widowchallenger,,,,

made in 92 or 93 ?

I know....

I think the frame you've described could be a 94 though...

hunterdubber · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2012, 11:47 PM »

94 !!!

tut

Yeah I was gonna say that

3rd Tuesday in June

revcore · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:25 AM »

Always loved the Murray Stay Holmes. Here's mine....

OrgasmDonor · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2012, 11:48 AM »

Quote from: revcore on January 06, 2012, 11:25 AM

Always loved the Murray Stay Holmes. Here's mine....

fook me dude, you've got some shit bikes!

revcore · « **Reply #15 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:32 AM »

Quote from: OrgasmDonor on January 06, 2012, 11:48 AM

Quote from: revcore on January 06, 2012, 11:25 AM
Always loved the Murray Stay Holmes. Here's mine....

fook me dude, you've got some shit bikes!

Glad you like it

Betty · « **Reply #16 on:** January 07, 2012, 12:38 AM »

Yep that's awesome revcore...

May as well chuck mine in....

revcore · « **Reply #17 on:** January 07, 2012, 01:23 AM »

Quote from: Betty on January 07, 2012, 12:38 AM

Yep that's awesome revcore...

May as well chuck mine in....

Super nice Holmes....Love that Vetta seat too. I was looking for a Vetta seat the same as yours when I was building my Holmes but couldn't find one.

generallee · « **Reply #18 on:** January 07, 2012, 10:06 PM »

Nothing at S&M was ever set in stone... 990 mounts, gussets, dropout thickness, cable guides, even stickers.. always varied.
Even now ... my custom ATF arrived... without a toptube gusset like it should have ! Bloody Friday at 4pm frames eh? !!!

SaMAlex · « **Reply #19 on:** January 09, 2012, 08:31 AM »

Might as well post up a pic of my Mk2 Holmes. If only do dilute the amount of chrome on this thread!

kev-s · « **Reply #20 on:** January 09, 2012, 09:13 AM »

Betty · « **Reply #21 on:** January 15, 2012, 06:43 PM »

Anyone spot this little beaut....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-EARLY-1990s-1991-1992-S-M-HOLMES-XL-HOT-TEMPER-FRAME-FORK-XXL-DK-STEM-/250968771654?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a6ee78c46#ht_8862wt_1063

Very rare decals...

SaMAlex · « **Reply #22 on:** January 15, 2012, 08:54 PM »

Wow, thats a nice one.

Those decals always make me think of Todd Lyons cos he was riding a Holmes with them in an Interview he had. At the time it always confused me. Why would you want people to think you were riding a Haro

It went pretty high. It cant all have been for the DK stem can it $:-\$