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Offline diesel

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IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« on: December 06, 2011, 03:46 PM »
Ideas needed please

Got a very nice Rare 'low flange' hub here:

It has a Shimano freewheel on and I don't want to damage the hub 'at all'.

As its low flange - I cannot re-lace it with the freewheel on.

Any ideas welcome, before I go to work on it

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 03:51 PM »
I think someone on here cut one off with a dremel ???
I've got a similar problem so wouldn't mind knowing how it's done.

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 04:13 PM »
My rough plan is to cut and drill a piece of wood to hold the hub in a vice without damaging it

A bit like this:

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 04:21 PM »
This is going to sound extremely thick but have u not got a freewheel remover?

If not i think my dad will have 1 which u could borrow, save time and hassle surely :daumenhoch:

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2011, 04:24 PM »
I take it the hub is not still in the wheel? if this is the case, you will be extremely lucky to remove the free wheel without damaging it. If you are careful, the hub should be ok.

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 04:25 PM »
Lacing it to a rim using the other side only is your best bet
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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 04:35 PM »
what Dan Diesel said  :)
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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 04:38 PM »
I think someone on here cut one off with a dremel ???



Bust off the outer ring of the freewheel (cut, unscrew, snap) and you'll be left with just the inner bit still screwed onto the hub. Then, hopefully there'll be enough space to get spokes in to lace up the wheel. Once built, you can hold the inner ring bit in a vice and unscrew it using the rim.

I'd say that the ONLY way to get a freewheel off is to hold it in a vice (using a tool, or just holding the inner bit) and use a rim as leverage. And even they, they are always very tight.

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 05:07 PM »
Ideas needed please

Got a very nice Rare 'low flange' hub here:

It has a Shimano freewheel on and I don't want to damage the hub 'at all'.

As its low flange - I cannot re-lace it with the freewheel on.

Any ideas welcome, before I go to work on it

Is it a Profile gyrolite ???

Last hub i did i cut through it with an angle grinder,then when the outside was of,i cut through the inner until i got to the hub threads,then turned it with a stilson :daumenhoch:

I worked out how far to grind down though, kept measuring it with a vernier :daumenhoch:,was only a suzue hub though,not a profile one :D

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 05:41 PM »
Dan I've got them off before by lacing the other side up only. I laced all the spokes in one direction though and turned the sproket against all 18 of them. Obviously I had a removal tool in a vice and turned the wheel against the vice.

Mine were a set of Arai sealed hubs so I had to get the freewheel off!
Still limping......

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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 05:53 PM »
What about holding the hub with an oil filter removal tool - the kind with the strap. I've seen them in smaller sizes somewhere. You may be able to hold it steady enough to turn off the freewheel by putting the freewheel removal tool in the vice.

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 05:59 PM »
open up a jubilee clip and wrap some old rubber/ like an inner tube round the center hub -  tighten the jubilee cilp around the hub ontop of the rubber  - nice and tight..  :coolsmiley:

Place the bolt/screw mech of the jubilee clip into a vice and remove the freewheel as normal. The hub had to go into the vice at 90 degrees to clear the vice flanges.

Worked for me.  :angel:
« Last Edit: December 06, 2011, 06:06 PM by sid1972 »

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 08:38 PM »
Dan I've got them off before by lacing the other side up only.

Thanks all, some great ideas  :daumenhoch:

rooski =  :4_17_5:

I think I might try Spen's idea 1st off as that seems the least intrusive. I won't try too hard if it budges That'll be just the ticket I think.

If that doesn't work then I'll have another little think about my next move


Thanks again  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 09:09 PM »
I have always got them off by lacing one side of the wheel also.

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 09:35 PM »
There's a pic on here where someone has done it.

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/post.php'tid=159490&qid=1373757

I took this freewheel off recently it give you an idea what it looks like apart in case you want to take off the cog so you can lace up both sides.




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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2011, 09:15 AM »
Ive got a Mig here if you want to weld it up Dan :)

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2011, 09:35 AM »
Ive got a Mig here if you want to weld it up Dan :)

Cheers Justin, will keep that in mind  :daumenhoch:

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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2011, 09:18 PM »
Right then all laced up, freewheel removal tool fitted, ready to take to work tomorrow so that I can used the bench.




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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 09:25 PM »
looks like a nice hub idd  8)

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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2011, 09:36 PM »
Be careful I snapped a hub in the middle trying to undo it like that, I think it was a shimano hub , but they are very similair . I would be more tempted to strip the freewheel down and tryand get a few spokes in the drive side as well. just a word of warning .  :daumenhoch:

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Re: IDEAS NEEDED - How to take a freewheel off from a hub?
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2011, 10:17 PM »
Be careful I snapped a hub in the middle trying to undo it like that, I think it was a shimano hub , but they are very similair . I would be more tempted to strip the freewheel down and tryand get a few spokes in the drive side as well. just a word of warning .  :daumenhoch:

and my Shimano freewheel is still on the snapped  hub   :LolLolLolLol:


« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 10:30 PM by Hunterdubber »

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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 10:28 PM »
Be careful I snapped a hub in the middle trying to undo it like that, I think it was a shimano hub , but they are very similair . I would be more tempted to strip the freewheel down and tryand get a few spokes in the drive side as well. just a word of warning .  :daumenhoch:

WOW......

OK point noted - Thank you  :daumenhoch:

if it doesn't budge easily then I'll do just that.......


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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2011, 10:55 PM »
Make sure you baste it liberally in penetrating oil Dan.

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« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2011, 09:01 AM »
I would personally bend some old spokes in the correct side, you should be able to get some in through the gaps in the freewheel teeth

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« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2011, 09:42 AM »
I would have put some extra spoke through the drive side Justin, but unfortunately there was no room for them.


HOWEVER - A BIG THANK YOU to everyone here for your help

I am now the proud owner of a perfectly useable set of Profile Gyrolite 1 Hubs






Which means I now have a spare set of Son lite Turbo's


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