Author Topic: One for the racers,When did people start to "Manual" jumps in a race? (Read 1967 times)

rooski · « **on:** November 10, 2011, 09:33 PM »

I know manuals existed before people started calling them manuals,and some people did them by accident.

I dont remember them bitd,just speedjumping,pumping etc

Maybe someone who raced in the late 80,s/early 90,s noticed racers starting to use the technique or did it themselves

Rooski

Jon The Bassist · « **Reply #1 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:39 PM »

You might find it was a gradual thing. I remember a few people doing it the last couple of years I raced (89 & 90) and I got photos of people doing it at Derby track (on the current site). There weren't that many of the smooth rolling shaped doubles before that. You're right that occasionally someone would bottle out of jumping a double after starting to get the front wheel up and then do it by accident.

rooski · « **Reply #2 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:44 PM »

Quote from: Jon The Bassist on November 10, 2011, 09:39 PM

You might find it was a gradual thing. I remember a few people doing it the last couple of years I raced (89 & 90) and I got photos of people doing it at Derby track (on the current site). There weren't that many of the smooth rolling shaped doubles before that. You're right that occasionally someone would bottle out of jumping a double after starting to get the front wheel up and then do it by accident.

Yeah was thinkin late 80,s

think your right about the shape of the jumps on older tracks,not really suitable for manuals

Peter J · « **Reply #3 on:** November 10, 2011, 09:56 PM »

This person still cannot manual

rooski · « **Reply #4 on:** November 10, 2011, 10:03 PM »

Quote from: Peter J on November 10, 2011, 09:56 PM

This person still cannot manual

Seems like an easy thing to do Peter, its simple in theory, but hard in practice......

griff · « **Reply #5 on:** November 10, 2011, 10:05 PM »

Pooch · « **Reply #6 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:13 PM »

This bloke can!!

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/watch?v=TZ8JVc-l6u0

oldschoolib · « **Reply #7 on:** November 11, 2011, 03:54 PM »

i go crewe all the time and firmly believe that if your over 30 you cant manual without falling off, im trying to do it but keep on hitting the dirt (HARD)

motomagII · « **Reply #8 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:08 PM »

i started amnuelling

?? about now lol
i reckon it was late 80s but mid 90s when it started getting super smooth as it is nowadays

rooski · « **Reply #9 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:09 PM »

Quote from: oldschoolib on November 11, 2011, 03:54 PM

i go crewe all the time and firmly believe that if your over 30 you cant manual without falling off, im trying to do it but keep on hitting the dirt (HARD)

ive gone over the back a few times,keep yer weight in front of the back axle,cover the brake

me doin a manual,porobably not a very good one

motomagII · « **Reply #10 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:12 PM »

did u just say cover brake andy .thats what you need to do .

im glad i did last night saved me big time or id have been on me ass hard

rooski · « **Reply #11 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:17 PM »

Quote from: motomagII on November 11, 2011, 04:12 PM

did u just say cover brake andy .thats what you need to do .
im glad i did last night saved me big time or id have been on me ass hard

Yeah cover the brake Greg

i dont usually do it though

,like all me hand on the bars,brake works now though,got a pitbull

motomagII · « **Reply #12 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:19 PM »

mmm ive gone from pitbull to bulldog but never ride me old schol anymkl

rooski · « **Reply #13 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:24 PM »

Quote from: motomagII on November 11, 2011, 04:19 PM

mmm ive gone from pitbull to bulldog but never ride me old schol anymkl

may try a Bulldog,the pitbull a big bastard thing,and probably wont work when it gets shitted up

mattfx81 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 11, 2011, 04:56 PM »

I think christophe leveque was one of the first to use proper manualing in a race in the early 90's.

rooski · « **Reply #15 on:** November 11, 2011, 05:41 PM »

Quote from: mattfx81 on November 11, 2011, 04:56 PM

I think christophe leveque was one of the first to use proper manualing in a race in the early 90's.

i bet when they witnessed his speed they wanted to learn how to do them as well,he was fast as fook

SaMAlex · « **Reply #16 on:** November 11, 2011, 05:47 PM »

In the first S&M video there's a clip of Dave Clymer doing a "modern" manual over a row of about 10 rollers. At that time he was a racer so I'm sure he was doing them in races too. That was about 1991.

mattfx81 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 11, 2011, 05:51 PM »

Dave Clymer is hardcore and one of my BMX heroes... Rooski it was OGGy who told me bout Leveque doing them I think when I came up to Bradistan last year to sell him my TNT which I bought back a few months later...

Matt

rooski · « **Reply #18 on:** November 11, 2011, 06:42 PM »

Quote from: mattfx81 on November 11, 2011, 05:51 PM

Dave Clymer is hardcore and one of my BMX heroes... Rooski it was OGGy who told me bout Leveque doing them I think when I came up to Bradistan last year to sell him my TNT which I bought back a few months later...

Matt

Yes i had a conversation with Oggy about this,must have been Leveque he was talkin about

oldschoolib · « **Reply #19 on:** November 11, 2011, 09:46 PM »

ill try remember weight over wheel hand on brake next time im lying in the middle of the track and some lad standing over me saying "you ok mister" or my brother riding up saying " shit fella that looked like it hurt you alright" i must be an

58 delray · « **Reply #20 on:** November 11, 2011, 10:30 PM »

if i try to think about it i can't do it,
if i don't think about it i can do it but then scare the shit out of myself

deeman · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:29 PM »

Quote from: 58delray on November 11, 2011, 10:30 PM

if i try to think about it i can't do it,
if i don't think about it i can do it but then scare the shit out of myself

I'm the same with any trick,bike or board!!

theRuler · « **Reply #22 on:** November 13, 2011, 10:35 PM »

The principal of keeping the back wheel down over jumps goes back to the early 80's (or before?)

It was called "speed jumping".

It meant you could keep pedalling.