Author Topic: hoffman condor - colour advice (no longer) needed - (more) pics added - FINISHED (Read 10010 times)

BrianP · « **on:** May 31, 2006, 08:58 AM »

ok folks, this is gonna be my first project of the summer.
close to mint structurally, aside from a bit of one drop-out missing due to ledge grinds - soon to be sorted with a welder and a bit of filler metal.

big question i need answered is - anyone know what (other) colours this frame came in?

got a NOS set of (era-correct) decals ready to apply after painting, but don't reckon i'm gonna go with trying to replicate the metallic / candy apple red type colour the frame was originally.

any suggestions?

Bp.

harris · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2006, 09:16 AM »

be original do your own colour scheme if you arnt going to do the normal colour let your hair down
and do a stunner :daumenhoch:get ideas from museum.

BrianP · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2006, 09:38 AM »

Quote from: harris on May 31, 2006, 09:16 AM

be original do your own colour scheme if you arnt going to do the normal colour let your hair down
and do a stunner :daumenhoch:get ideas from museum.

Hmm, got a set of orange tyres from ftobmx

and some NOS mushy's in orange arrived from the states this am...

feel a black and orange scheme coming on...

harris · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2006, 09:43 AM »

go for it

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2006, 12:56 PM »

have you seen the loverly blue one in the museum.....btw where did you get that frame, and what year is it?

Stodgy · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2006, 01:13 PM »

Looks around a 1999/2000 frame...not sure on the colours from that year...what do the graphics look like?

TwoBobRob · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2006, 01:15 PM »

I'd go a little earlier - it has the skinnier rear end.... I reckon earliest 1995, latest 1999. I'm not sure when the fatty back ends came in, but I had a 2000 model which was a fatty.

Stodgy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2006, 01:37 PM »

I don't think the seat tube looks laid-back enough for 95 to 98 - unless it's my eyes playing games on me...

The sticker set would indicate a 98 +, but the red wasn't available in 98 and I believe they went to the more upright seattube in 1999...Rob, I agree with you on the fatty thing for 2000, so I still reckon a 99...(not that it matters - it's sweeeet, and I'm just trying to help identify!) -

1998 Hoffman Condor brochure pic:

Sticker close-up:

Hope this helps!

Dave

BrianP · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2006, 01:51 PM »

hey guys, cheers for your input.

bought the frame on ebay a coupla years back (bit of an impulse buy, and i don't recall it actually costing that much to be honest) and the same with the sticker set, which looks very like the one on Dave's scan (cheers for that - i don't have any mags from round that time, so it's cool to see)

it's got a 1 1/8" headtube, 14mm dropouts and i'll see what the serial no. is, to try and see what light it sheds, but the seat tube's definitely not very laid-back in comparison to the museum listings.

didn't get any forks with it, but i did get a set of D130 ones from cyclesport a while ago, which i was planning on using with it.
they're of a similar chunky build... and are a sort of metallic green colour, and i'm planning to use the "inspector" on the whole lot...

plus, i'm really wishing i hadn't gotten rid of the HB super stem i had....

i'm in work at the moment, but i'll post a pic of the stickerset later on tonight.

cheers guys,

Brian.

Stodgy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2006, 02:31 PM »

Hia Brian

Just found the spec for the 1999 Condor...appears the seattube was still 65 degree(?)...went to 68 degree in 2000...anyhow, thought you might like the full spec for re-building (see below)...oh, and colour choice includes the maroon! (2000 was black, white and chrome)

Hoffman Condor 1999
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BB Shell Width: Unspecified

BB Spindle Length: Unspecified

Bicycle Type: freestyle/jumping

Bottom Bracket: Unspecified

Brake Levers: Dia-Tech 99

Brakeset: Dia-Compe 990 brakes, Dia-Tech 99 levers

Chain: KMC 410, 1/2 x 3/32"

Chain Size: 1/2 x 3/32"

Chainrings: 44

Chainstay Length: 14.25-15.75"

Colors: Chrome-Plated, Dark Maroon, Flat Black

Component Group: Not applicable

Crankset: 1-piece chromoly, 44 teeth

Fork Brand & Model: Hoffman Bikes Super Fork

Fork Crown: unicrown

Fork Material: 4130 chromoly, unicrown crown

Fork Rake: 0.0"

Fork Travel: Not applicable

Frame Angles: 74.0 head, 65.0 seat

Frame Construction: TIG-welded

Frame Tubing Material: 4130 chromoly

Front Brake: Dia-Compe 990

Front Brake Lever: Dia-Tech 99

Front Derailleur: Not applicable

Front Derailleur Type: Not applicable

Handlebar: Hoffman Bikes Love Handle Bar

Handlebar Extensions: Not applicable

Handlebar Stem: Hoffman Bikes Super Stem

Head Tube Angle: 74.0

Headset: 1 1/8" threadless Dia-Tech steel w/SST Oryg detangler

Headset Diameter: 1 1/8" threadless

Hub Front: Hoffman Girthy 3/8"

Hub Rear: Hoffman Girthy 14mm

Hubs: Front: Hoffman Girthy 3/8", Rear: Hoffman Girthy 14mm

Largest Rear Cog: Not applicable

Num Rear Cogs: Not applicable

Pedals: Wellgo LU-313U

Rear Brake: Dia-Compe 990

Rear Brake Lever: Dia-Tech 99

Rear Cogs: Not applicable

Rear Derailleur: Not applicable

Rear Shock: Not applicable

Rear Shock Travel: Not applicable

Rim Front: HB Highroller CP

Rim Rear: HB Highroller CP

Rims: HB Highroller CP, 48-hole

Saddle: HB Velo VL-283

Seat Post Diameter: 25.4mm

Seat Tube Angle: 65.0

Seatpost: HB 4130, 25.4mm diameter

Shift Levers: Not applicable

Sizes: Unspecified

Smallest Rear Cog: Not applicable

Spoke Brand: stainless steel, 2.0mm straight gauge

Spoke Gauge: 2.0mm

Spoke Holes: 48-hole

Spoke Material: stainless steel

Spoke Nipples: brass nipples

Spoke Type: straight gauge

Sugg Retail: 669.99

Tire Front: Hoffman Bikes Skidmark

Tire Rear: Hoffman Bikes Skidmark

Tire Size Front: 20 x 1.95"

Tire Size Rear: 20 x 1.95"

Tires: 20 x 1.95" Hoffman Bikes Skidmark

Top Tube Length: 20.75"

Weight: Unspecified

Wheelbase: 36-37.50"

BrianP · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2006, 04:19 PM »

cheers dave! that's cool to have.

think flat black's the way it's gonna go...

will post a complete set of b4 and after pics when i get sorted.

thanks again,

Bp.

huffy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2006, 04:42 PM »

orange tyres eh brian
this i gotta see man

russ

oberonspacefruit · « **Reply #12 on:** May 31, 2006, 05:39 PM »

carefull now, or it may end up looking like this.

Stodgy · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2006, 06:43 PM »

Quote from: brianp on May 31, 2006, 04:19 PM

cheers dave! that's cool to have.

think flat black's the way it's gonna go...

will post a complete set of b4 and after pics when i get sorted.

thanks again,

Bp.

Pleasure mate - glad I could help. Looking forward to seeing the final build!

Must get round to getting some pics up of mine!

Cheers
Dave

theRuler · « **Reply #14 on:** May 31, 2006, 06:48 PM »

Quote from: oberonspacefruit on May 31, 2006, 05:39 PM

carefull now, or it may end up looking like this.

w00t w00t

looking good. funky bars though

BrianP · « **Reply #15 on:** June 01, 2006, 10:46 PM »

here's a pic of the sticker set i've got ready and waiting.

same as the one on dave's scan, but with a different headtube sticker......?

serial number to follow.

Bp.

TwoBobRob · « **Reply #16 on:** June 02, 2006, 12:55 AM »

Stodgy - I bow to your superior knowledge mate, I didn't even know about the change in seattube angle... I only ever noticed the fatty back ends as a difference in the later models

Brian, I'm liking the flat black

Stace · « **Reply #17 on:** June 02, 2006, 07:36 AM »

Stodgy

Where did you get the parts list like that?

Cheers
Stace

Stodgy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 02, 2006, 05:14 PM »

Sweet sticker set Brian - liking that a lot! Should look rad (but you're gonna loose the script 'Condor' sticker on a black frame (mind you - it could look quite cool as it would be shiny and the frame matt black).

I know it's not correct, but I would go for a white or a light blue frame to make the most of those stickers, it would look fabulous.

Rob - Sorry mate I wasn't trying to be too anal, just did a load of research when I built mine...

Stace - For full specs on most bikes, try this link: http://www.airfreetires.com/specs/

BrianP · « **Reply #19 on:** June 13, 2006, 08:33 PM »

ok, update time...

just finished stripping the condor frame and D130 forks. jeez the inspector burns when it spits!

hoping to get a lick of paint on it this weekend.

Bp.

Stodgy · « **Reply #20 on:** June 13, 2006, 09:07 PM »

Ooooo - looking good! How long is that steerer tube?!

Have you decided on a colour?

BrianP · « **Reply #21 on:** June 13, 2006, 10:24 PM »

Quote from: Stodgy on June 13, 2006, 09:07 PM

Ooooo - looking good! How long is that steerer tube?!

Have you decided on a colour?

is a bit, ain't it?
steerer tube is a good 180mm (7 inches) and the headtube is a more regular 100mm (4 inches).
gonna be a lot of tube sticking out the top of the stem b4 i cut it...
the top of the steerer is threaded too, like the old 1" forks. is this to take the big top cap hoffman used on their completes?

colourwise: flat black, definitely, but i'm not sure how the (mainly blue) decals will look with the orange scheme i'm thinking of...

Bp.

BrianP · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2006, 09:51 PM »

ok, time for a quick update.

pics taken about half an hour ago, after i finished stickering it up. jeez i can't wait to get this thing built and take it out...

hopefully have it built during or b4 next weekend.

later guys...

ps - dave, turned out i had the fork stickers, just found them in my sticker stash, but can i please take the silver rub-on's off ur hands anyway? cheers buddy,

Bp.

Stodgy · « **Reply #23 on:** June 26, 2006, 12:33 PM »

Looking sweet Brian!

BrianP · « **Reply #24 on:** August 14, 2006, 12:08 PM »

finished - dunno if i like the colour scheme tho.
comments welcome.

Bp.

Author Topic: hoffman condor - colour advice (no longer) needed - (more) pics added - FINISHED (Read 10010 times)

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