Not bad Ed - they weigh a forkin' ton, I found em too short for me bitd (although I'm 6' 3") - full Taiwan chromo, nice small back end on em so good for manuals etc. Pegs are a nightmare to find for em (at least when they had the built in peg bosses). They were copied in the late 90's by several other companies, and some of these were hi-ten not chromo - check it's deffo a Big Ass first