Author Topic: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless (Read 8958 times)

brummie · « **on:** August 20, 2011, 12:55 PM »

pros and cons please
which is better?

cheers dudes

fugazi · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2011, 01:30 PM »

No contest, 1 1/8 threadless! Stronger, a headset that doesn't come loose all the time & easier to set up

Peter J · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2011, 01:42 PM »

Quote from: fugazi33 on August 20, 2011, 01:30 PM

No contest, 1 1/8 threadless! Stronger, a headset that doesn't come loose all the time & easier to set up

X1

LENNY-LENTINI · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2011, 02:10 PM »

'Ello Brother

There's a great article in Ride Magazine approx 2 years ago that was written by George French (long term rider and founder/owner of G-SPORT).

The artcile is all about the advancement of BMX bikes/parts. there's a great bit on headsets poking fun at the old 1" threaded headsets and how we were constantly tightening them.

If you can find that article it will make you think/laugh.

Keep the Faith. L

skidmark · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2011, 02:12 PM »

Yeh...deffo 1&1/8 Brummie

1" is for losers, like comparing meat with quorn.

Jaymz · « **Reply #5 on:** August 20, 2011, 03:29 PM »

I hate quorn

Badbaldie · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2011, 04:16 PM »

hang on isnt 1 inch the reason were all on this site ..... old school all the way

does the roset say 1/8 ? i dont think so

griff · « **Reply #7 on:** August 20, 2011, 05:01 PM »

only one way to find out.........................

Badbaldie · « **Reply #8 on:** August 20, 2011, 05:34 PM »

Quote from: haro-os-boy on August 20, 2011, 05:15 PM

Quote from: Badbaldie on August 20, 2011, 04:16 PM
hang on isnt 1 inch the reason were all on this site .....

It sure is, but doesn't change the fact that 1" threaded is shite

Bru

ok for all those who dont like the 1 inch stems please hand in your tuff necks , redline brute ,pro necks, esp, etc etc

SaMAlex · « **Reply #9 on:** August 20, 2011, 08:32 PM »

You are ALL missing the point here!!! (haha, I like that start

).

1" headsets are shit, but it wasnt the end of the world using them. I managed to keep mine tight, but that wasnt the real problem with 1" shafted stem/forks. The real improvement with 1 1/8 clampon was the strength!

With a 1" shafted setup you have the stem on the inside and the headset threads on the outside ...... so the thickness of the fork steer tube is fixed. There is nothing you can do. The top of the steer stube is kinda OK cos is has a thick stem in it but below the stem there is a weak spot ..... right at the focal point of the leverage from the front wheel. EVERY set of 1" threaded forks is on the brink of snapping. Its a fact!

There are ways of helping make a 1" setup OK. Making the stem long enough to fill the whole length of the steer tube worked well (S&M Wedgie Jackson

) but it wasnt very light. 1" clamp on stems meant that you could make the steer tube thicker (cos you didnt have to fit a stem in them) but they were also heavy (and still used the old headset). Just as BMX started improving the strength of 1" forks, the 1 1/8, clamp on stem, threadless headset came along. Trouble free headset, larger diameter steer tube (so stronger) that you could make as thick as you wanted. There was no looking back.

scott250 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 24, 2011, 10:11 PM »

ahead sets way better - while on the subject, did you know that you could actually run 1/8" threadless on a frame that is made for 1" threaded - just slam in the bearings of the aheadset into 1" cups, works a treat. I ran a skyway for a bit doing this with 1/8" threadless pitchforks

GTnumber1 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 24, 2011, 11:13 PM »

old school for show. new school to ride................... simples

snooze · « **Reply #12 on:** November 19, 2011, 12:09 AM »

i have A 24" GT pro series that takes a 1" threadless head set. i was thinking to get a Quill adapter instead of the old skool Stems, then i could put a new Skool one on it but wil that make any difference? it seems not $:-\$

m1ke · « **Reply #13 on:** November 19, 2011, 12:40 AM »

Quote from: skidmark on August 20, 2011, 02:12 PM

Yeh...deffo 1&1/8 Brummie
1" is for losers, like comparing meat with quorn.

Discostu · « **Reply #14 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:03 AM »

My 1" ripper headtube with 1"1/8th forks fitted. This is quite an easy conversion!

And you get the best of both worlds. Old school frame with new school tech.

snooze · « **Reply #15 on:** November 19, 2011, 11:46 AM »

Quote from: discostu on November 19, 2011, 11:03 AM

My 1" ripper headtube with 1"1/8th forks fitted. This is quite an easy conversion!
And you get the best of both worlds. Old school frame with new school tech.

how does this ride? I tried to do this conversion but i couldn't get it to work

dubdee · « **Reply #16 on:** November 19, 2011, 12:29 PM »

Quote from: scott250 on August 24, 2011, 10:11 PM

ahead sets way better - while on the subject, did you know that you could actually run 1/8" threadless on a frame that is made for 1" threaded - just slam in the bearings of the aheadset into 1" cups, works a treat. I ran a skyway for a bit doing this with 1/8" threadless pitchforks

Weirdly i tried this last week as i had the some bits on the bench i was giving to my Bro, I did not know if there was a reason you should not do this but he said it would do as it saved him buying a stem

theRuler · « **Reply #17 on:** November 19, 2011, 12:32 PM »

If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

HEYWOOD BMX · « **Reply #18 on:** November 19, 2011, 04:49 PM »

Quote from: snooze on November 19, 2011, 12:09 AM

i have A 24" GT pro series that takes a 1" threadless head set. i was thinking to get a Quill adapter instead of the old skool Stems, then i could put a new Skool one on it but wil that make any difference? it seems not $:-\$

Quill adaptors are real flimsy,designed for road/commuter bikes.All it does is allow a clamp on stem but without the benefits of the Ahead system.
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php'topic=28925.0

gobshite · « **Reply #19 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:46 PM »

Quote from: discostu on November 19, 2011, 11:03 AM

My 1" ripper headtube with 1"1/8th forks fitted. This is quite an easy conversion!
And you get a compromise, weak frame with strong forks.

fixed that for you.

gobshite · « **Reply #20 on:** November 20, 2011, 06:54 PM »

Quote from: the®uler on November 19, 2011, 12:32 PM

If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

menstrual cycles?

theRuler · « **Reply #21 on:** November 20, 2011, 07:05 PM »

Quote from: darksunday on November 20, 2011, 06:54 PM

Quote from: the®uler on November 19, 2011, 12:32 PM
If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

menstrual cycles?

There was a kinda changeover period where a few manufacturers made 1" clamp on stuff.

I think (although I could be wrong) that Heavy Tools may have been one of them.

fugazi · « **Reply #22 on:** November 20, 2011, 07:06 PM »

Dragonfly Mosherforks came in 1" ahead, as did Prolite & Haro amongst others.

gobshite · « **Reply #23 on:** November 20, 2011, 07:12 PM »

Quote from: the®uler on November 20, 2011, 07:05 PM

Quote from: darksunday on November 20, 2011, 06:54 PM
Quote from: the®uler on November 19, 2011, 12:32 PM
If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

menstrual cycles?

There was a kinda changeover period where a few manufacturers made 1" clamp on stuff.

I think (although I could be wrong) that Heavy Tools may have been one of them.

i think initially it was s&m's bi-product, menstrual cycles, then a few other manufacturers followed suit,

moliterno went with the "1-1/8th and moeller and the rest of them followed suit,

the single greatest thing to happen to the bmx bike.