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Offline brummie

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1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« on: August 20, 2011, 12:55 PM »
pros and cons please
which is better?

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 01:30 PM »
No contest, 1 1/8 threadless! Stronger, a headset that doesn't come loose all the time & easier to set up  :daumenhoch:
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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 01:42 PM »
No contest, 1 1/8 threadless! Stronger, a headset that doesn't come loose all the time & easier to set up  :daumenhoch:

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 02:10 PM »
'Ello Brother

There's a great article in Ride Magazine approx 2 years ago that was written by George French (long term rider and founder/owner of G-SPORT).

The artcile is all about the advancement of BMX bikes/parts. there's a great bit on headsets poking fun at the old 1" threaded headsets and how we were constantly tightening them.

If you can find that article it will make you think/laugh.

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 02:12 PM »
Yeh...deffo 1&1/8 Brummie  ;D
1" is for losers, like comparing meat with quorn.
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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 03:29 PM »
I hate quorn

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 04:16 PM »
 :shocked: hang on isnt 1 inch the reason were all on this site ..... old school all the way  :4_17_5:  does the roset say 1/8 ? i dont think so  :LolLolLolLol:

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 05:01 PM »
only one way to find out.........................








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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 05:34 PM »
:shocked: hang on isnt 1 inch the reason were all on this site .....

It sure is, but doesn't change the fact that 1" threaded is shite  :LolLolLolLol:

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ok for all those who dont like the 1 inch stems please hand in your tuff necks , redline brute ,pro necks, esp, etc etc  :LolLolLolLol:

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2011, 08:32 PM »
You are ALL missing the point here!!! (haha, I like that start  :knuppel2:).

1" headsets are shit, but it wasnt the end of the world using them. I managed to keep mine tight, but that wasnt the real problem with 1" shafted stem/forks. The real improvement with 1 1/8 clampon was the strength!

With a 1" shafted setup you have the stem on the inside and the headset threads on the outside ...... so the thickness of the fork steer tube is fixed. There is nothing you can do. The top of the steer stube is kinda OK cos is has a thick stem in it but below the stem there is a weak spot ..... right at the focal point of the leverage from the front wheel. EVERY set of 1" threaded forks is on the brink of snapping. Its a fact!

There are ways of helping make a 1" setup OK. Making the stem long enough to fill the whole length of the steer tube worked well (S&M Wedgie Jackson  ::)) but it wasnt very light. 1" clamp on stems meant that you could make the steer tube thicker (cos you didnt have to fit a stem in them) but they were also heavy (and still used the old headset). Just as BMX started improving the strength of 1" forks, the 1 1/8, clamp on stem, threadless headset came along. Trouble free headset, larger diameter steer tube (so stronger) that you could make as thick as you wanted. There was no looking back.

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2011, 10:11 PM »
ahead sets way better - while on the subject, did you know that you could actually run 1/8" threadless on a frame that is made for 1" threaded - just slam in the bearings of the aheadset into 1" cups, works a treat.  I ran a skyway for a bit doing this with 1/8" threadless pitchforks :P

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2011, 11:13 PM »
old school for show. new school to ride................... simples  :D

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 12:09 AM »
i have A 24" GT pro series that takes a 1" threadless head set. i was thinking to get a Quill adapter instead of the old skool Stems, then i could put a new Skool one on it but wil that make any difference? it seems not  :-\

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 12:40 AM »
Yeh...deffo 1&1/8 Brummie  ;D
1" is for losers, like comparing meat with quorn.
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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 11:03 AM »
My 1" ripper headtube with 1"1/8th forks fitted. This is quite an easy conversion!  :daumenhoch:
And you get the best of both worlds. Old school frame with new school tech.

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2011, 11:46 AM »
My 1" ripper headtube with 1"1/8th forks fitted. This is quite an easy conversion!  :daumenhoch:
And you get the best of both worlds. Old school frame with new school tech.



how does this ride? I tried to do this conversion but i couldn't get it to work

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2011, 12:29 PM »
ahead sets way better - while on the subject, did you know that you could actually run 1/8" threadless on a frame that is made for 1" threaded - just slam in the bearings of the aheadset into 1" cups, works a treat.  I ran a skyway for a bit doing this with 1/8" threadless pitchforks :P

Weirdly i tried this last week as i had the some bits on the bench i was giving to my Bro, I did not know if there was a reason you should not do this but he said it would do as it saved him buying a stem  ;D

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2011, 12:32 PM »
If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2011, 04:49 PM »
i have A 24" GT pro series that takes a 1" threadless head set. i was thinking to get a Quill adapter instead of the old skool Stems, then i could put a new Skool one on it but wil that make any difference? it seems not  :-\

 Quill adaptors are real flimsy,designed for road/commuter bikes.All it does is allow a clamp on stem but without the benefits of the Ahead system.
http://www.global-flat.com/smf/index.php'topic=28925.0

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2011, 06:46 PM »
My 1" ripper headtube with 1"1/8th forks fitted. This is quite an easy conversion!  :daumenhoch:
And you get a compromise, weak frame with strong forks.



fixed that for you. :daumenhoch:
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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2011, 06:54 PM »
If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

menstrual cycles?

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2011, 07:05 PM »
If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

menstrual cycles?

There was a kinda changeover period where a few manufacturers made 1" clamp on stuff.

I think (although I could be wrong) that Heavy Tools may have been one of them.

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2011, 07:06 PM »
Dragonfly Mosherforks came in 1" ahead, as did Prolite & Haro amongst others.
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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2011, 07:12 PM »
If you search hard enough, you can find 1" clamp on stems and forks.

menstrual cycles?

There was a kinda changeover period where a few manufacturers made 1" clamp on stuff.

I think (although I could be wrong) that Heavy Tools may have been one of them.

i think initially it was s&m's bi-product, menstrual cycles, then a few other manufacturers followed suit,

moliterno went with the "1-1/8th  and moeller and the rest of them followed suit,

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Re: 1" threaded vs 1 and 1/8" threadless
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2011, 07:21 PM »
the single greatest thing to happen to the bmx bike.

A little off topic but on the subject of headtubes, do you recall the KHE internal gyro headtubes?

Oh man.

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