Author Topic: Do standards slip as you get older or are you just a cheap bastard? (Read 17404 times)

ukoldschool · « **Reply #25 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:03 PM »

Quote from: pickle on July 13, 2011, 11:48 AM

I have to say I like the old DPs but there geometry is awful! There head tube angle is way to relaxed and the steering is all over the place.

Thank god a voice of sanity! They rode like what they were - a very poor copy of a haro with the angles all wrong. The only reason the forks are non raked is to try and put some sparkle into the geometry - and all that did was to make them feel nasty and squirelly. Ride a master or a streetbeat directly after a Firebird and youll see what I mean. Even an Ammaco freestyler (which was frankly the ultimate dogshit bike) has better geometry than a DP IMO.

Jaymz · « **Reply #26 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:04 PM »

Aww has Mr Gumpy got an ickle bumblebee in his pants about OS parts

SEND IN DIGGLER

Spen69 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:09 PM »

Sorry lads, I agree on the geometry of the DP being poor to be honest but it's my personal opinion.

However, rider bikes can't justify 401's and NOS DC brakes so you have to take a look at your budget and decide what you spend it on.

brettypeeps · « **Reply #28 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:12 PM »

Quote from: ukoldschool on July 13, 2011, 12:03 PM

Ride a master or a streetbeat directly after a Firebird and youll see what I mean. Even an Ammaco freestyler (which was frankly the ultimate dogshit bike) has better geometry than a DP IMO.

I have and I get straight back off the Haro Master and Back on the DP. The DP rides much better IMO

Dark Diggler · « **Reply #29 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:33 PM »

Standards slipping...far from it tarquin

Dannywhac · « **Reply #30 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:37 PM »

Quote from: Dark Diggler on July 13, 2011, 12:33 PM

Standards slipping...far from it tarquin

What's the chainring on that Puch?

JT Smooth · « **Reply #31 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:42 PM »

I look forward to seeing you on that

ozone · « **Reply #32 on:** July 13, 2011, 12:57 PM »

Quote from: ukoldschool on July 13, 2011, 12:03 PM

Quote from: pickle on July 13, 2011, 11:48 AM
I have to say I like the old DPs but there geometry is awful! There head tube angle is way to relaxed and the steering is all over the place.

Thank god a voice of sanity! They rode like what they were - a very poor copy of a haro with the angles all wrong. The only reason the forks are non raked is to try and put some sparkle into the geometry - and all that did was to make them feel nasty and squirelly. Ride a master or a streetbeat directly after a Firebird and youll see what I mean. Even an Ammaco freestyler (which was frankly the ultimate dogshit bike) has better geometry than a DP IMO.

At the comments from the Streetbeat owner. Ginny used to sell a Streetbeat f+f for $50 which is cheaper than an Aero Reflex frameset. What is the point of throwing a load of high-end bits on a $50 frameset - all of those inferior brands you refer to would be perfectly suited for such a build. You can't polish a turd, no matter how you you dress it up.

jT Racing · « **Reply #33 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:05 PM »

This is a hobby, fook all else. not about proving your current financial status through power spending. It's those sad bastards who drove the prices up on themselves. You can try and prove you're the man with aerospeeds and sst's but you'll still have a small penis no matter how much you over compensate.
Long live Ali cranks.

brass monkey! · « **Reply #34 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:09 PM »

old school BMX is dead!

RIP

ukoldschool · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:14 PM »

Quote from: ozone on July 13, 2011, 12:57 PM

At the comments from the Streetbeat owner. Ginny used to sell a Streetbeat f+f for $50 which is cheaper than an Aero Reflex frameset. What is the point of throwing a load of high-end bits on a $50 frameset - all of those inferior brands you refer to would be perfectly suited for such a build. You can't polish a turd, no matter how you you dress it up.

Eh? Harry potters mates sister used to sell streetbeats for $50 and this somehow makes them a worse f&f than an aeroreflex? ive yet to see a $50 2 tone streetbeat but im happy to be proven wrong so point me in the right direction. While your at it point the DP firebird builders there too and they can get a decent frame to replace their DP's

By the way you can polish a turd. check mythbusters

crazycraig · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:22 PM »

I have a frame pad for that puch !!! Free of charge . You need padding anyway

Julian347 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:41 PM »

Lower quality parts on more expensive frames are probably what a load of us had back in the day. Had a Kuwahara Nova and upgraded the frame to a Hutch Pro Racer after a few years. So there you have it, a top quality frame with parts from an entry level bike. It’s probably the same for a lot of us now as well.

Agree with you about the Maxycross cranks looking ugly, although they can look OK on the right build.

Julian

OrgasmDonor · « **Reply #38 on:** July 13, 2011, 01:48 PM »

should all be about enjoyment, some of the lower end bike builds on here have been awsome n pure old school, i was not into racing BITD so never saw the team bikes etc all the bikes i saw were real proper used bikes built with the bits peeps wanted on em. i don't think standards have slipped i just think people are "getting real" and these builds are far more interesting than another stock bike which has been seen and done a thousand times before on this site and better. The best stock builds have already been done, utilising decent overlooked lower end parts at least has the potential of evoking real memories of "real" kids build BITD and is a welcome change to the same old same old.

Diggler, your puchs shit!

Mattdub · « **Reply #39 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:15 PM »

Quote from: J.T Racing on July 13, 2011, 01:05 PM

This is a hobby, fook all else. not about proving your current financial status through power spending. It's those sad bastards who drove the prices up on themselves. You can try and prove you're the man with aerospeeds and sst's but you'll still have a small penis no matter how much you over compensate.
Long live Ali cranks.

Don't start picking on the SST owners

, oh and Aerospeeds were shite anyhow

AKGOFF · « **Reply #40 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:28 PM »

Funniest thread I've read in a long time, especially JT Racings comments, the ramblings of a jealous poor boy me thinks.

Adam

popedante · « **Reply #41 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:36 PM »

cheap sh!t is the new black

all this talk of crappy parts.......and no mention of the raleigh burner

Jaymz · « **Reply #42 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:45 PM »

Quote from: popedante on July 13, 2011, 02:36 PM

all this talk of crappy parts.......and no mention of the raleigh burner

Uh Oh

*grabs popcorn and waits for the show to start*

Dark Diggler · « **Reply #43 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:51 PM »

To all the people PM ing offers for the Puch, sorry but it left the building 2years ago

Dannywhac · « **Reply #44 on:** July 13, 2011, 02:57 PM »

Quote from: Dark Diggler on July 13, 2011, 02:51 PM

To all the people PM ing offers for the Puch, sorry but it left the building 2years ago

Not after the Puch, but whas teh chainringage?

diesel · « **Reply #45 on:** July 13, 2011, 03:00 PM »

Some of the cheaper bikes are often more iconic than the expensive ones.

I have a mongoose motomag in my collection, not because its particularly valuable or hard to find... but purely that when I look at it its brings the greatest memories of summer days rolling around the bomb drops in the woods near to where I lived than any other bike I can think of.

quite simply you cannot put a price on that.....

It could have been a team murry, or a halfords turbo... it could have been a Skyway ta with hutch aeroplops

But it was and is a mongoose motomag.... a half tone lump of steel that I love to bits

Its not the bike I use 'covet' (long after) that was always the PK Ripper, so I have one of those now, but that's more of a symbol of where I am now and not where I was then.

crazycraig · « **Reply #46 on:** July 13, 2011, 03:02 PM »

Quote from: AKGOFF on July 13, 2011, 02:28 PM

Funniest thread I've read in a long time, especially JT Racings comments, the ramblings of a jealous poor boy me thinks.

Adam

I agree . I think he should take up his original name of " townsend bmx " and let the original JT take the crown . Kill 2 birds with one stone i say

Big up Townsend BMX for supporting the poor blackburn massiff ..............init

jT Racing · « **Reply #47 on:** July 13, 2011, 03:08 PM »

Quote from: AKGOFF on July 13, 2011, 02:28 PM

Funniest thread I've read in a long time, especially JT Racings comments, the ramblings of a jealous poor boy me thinks.

Adam

Lol, this ones for you Adam

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jT Racing · « **Reply #48 on:** July 13, 2011, 03:10 PM »

Only if you change your name back to moon head Craig.

Dark Diggler · « **Reply #49 on:** July 13, 2011, 03:14 PM »

Quote from: dannywhac on July 13, 2011, 02:57 PM

Quote from: Dark Diggler on July 13, 2011, 02:51 PM
To all the people PM ing offers for the Puch, sorry but it left the building 2years ago

Not after the Puch, but whas teh chainringage?

I have been trying to rack my hairy brains, it wouldn't have been owt good, possibly GT, mongoose or DB