Author Topic: Cw's Brazed welds - New update ! (Read 4310 times)

dirtskirt · « **on:** February 15, 2011, 11:44 AM »

I have these cw bars and i think they look like brazed welds rather than the normal mig or whatever they did?

There not the neatest of welds and came off a curtis expert.
Anyone know if curtis made any CW bars or maybe more likely to be Rickman made?
I have a small Rickman brochure which shows cw's in their picture and the bars listed as - Pro (9 1/2" braced)
Medium (8 1/2" braced)
Mini (unbraced)
My ones measure 28 3/4" width x 9 1/2"rise.
Just thought they maybe made by one of these rather than many of the other copy brands?
Cheers Scott.

MartyC · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2011, 01:17 PM »

most likely to be Rebel or Peugeot Reynolds 531 bars

mattfx81 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2011, 01:59 PM »

With a t45 sticker on the front they could be curtis as they brazed everything. Also could be rickman or rebel as rebel did a few types of bars.

MartyC · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2011, 02:25 PM »

Quote from: mattfx81 on February 15, 2011, 01:59 PM

With a t45 sticker on the front they could be curtis as they brazed everything. Also could be rickman or rebel as rebel did a few types of bars.

Could be although I don;t know whether Curtis made CW stylee bars $:-\$ Maybe the Welsh Curtis Boi will pop in and proffer an opinion

animal · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2011, 06:54 PM »

Curtis braizing is normally neater than that but I recon they could still b

trasher · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2011, 08:51 PM »

now thats weird ,,, i have a set just like this ,,that came on my curtis ,,stickered up curtis t45

dirtskirt · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2011, 08:54 PM »

Yeah, maybe they did make cw style bars then,

Just that the welds are'nt really up to scratch for Curtis, Whats your welds like ?

trasher · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2011, 09:12 PM »

whats makes me think these were og to the bike was the fact they was still in the stem and fitted to the bike rusted in the headtube

and they had some sort of gold paint all over them

like you say not realy curtis standard ,,

and i took a bit of the chrome off here to reveal the gold braze underneath

and do yours have this ,,,,, like a kind of knurling at the stem area ,,,,these seem to of been sanded down at some time

dirtskirt · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2011, 09:34 PM »

No Knurling on my ones,

but they do look like there a very good match in shape , do yours measure the same as mine?

trasher · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2011, 09:43 PM »

ill have to measure them later mate

trasher · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2011, 10:05 PM »

i think paul has some ask him what his look like

dirtskirt · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2011, 10:08 PM »

Yeah , i can see them ok.

Yours look the same in shape also, what about your measurements ? 28 3/4" wide and 9 1/2" rise?

Think we need to get to the bottom of this somehow! Who was making them...

animal · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2011, 10:34 PM »

How heavy r these bars compaired 2 a real pair ? I had a pair with similar welds bitd u in the midlands . Mine were steel not cromo so heavier .

daz bmx it! · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2011, 10:42 PM »

Never seen CW style bars made buy Curtis.

dirtskirt · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2011, 03:11 PM »

Ive sent Curtis frames an e-mail today to see if i can jog their memory on these bars?

Wait and see what comes back!

sawzall · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:38 PM »

i think they are rickman scott, they made cw copies bitd

animal · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2011, 06:56 PM »

I think they may be Rebel . Think thats right the ones made in the midlands

sawzall · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:17 PM »

steve,rebel only tig welded there bars/frames etc

dirtskirt · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2011, 07:40 PM »

Yeah im thinking Rickman too,

Maybe they supplied Curtis ? Seems funny that a few survivor curtis's have turned up with these on.

I asked that in the e-mal i sent them today.

Just be nice to know their origin hey ? Cant sleeeeeeeep

trasher · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2011, 09:49 PM »

Be good to find out
As mine have been at the bottom of my scrap pile for
Two years

dirtskirt · « **Reply #20 on:** February 21, 2011, 09:23 PM »

Ok , just had a reply back from Curtis and it reads like this-

Hi scott ,
The bars you have are originall curtis pro bars for shure , Brian ( mr Curtis ) also made all the rickman frames which is why they are brazed as well .
I would love to see the old Rickman brochure you have .

Regards

Gary.

This is from Gary Woodhouse who i think works for Curtis.

dirtskirt · « **Reply #21 on:** February 27, 2011, 12:53 PM »

So what does any one think of this?

I did'nt know that Rickman frames were made by Curtis ?

mattfx81 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 27, 2011, 01:15 PM »

Didnt Rickman make bikes for other companies aswell ie MRD (post birmingham wheels)? So were these all Curtis frames?

Matt

dirtskirt · « **Reply #23 on:** February 27, 2011, 01:23 PM »

Yeah i thought they did, but the e-mail says Rickman frames were made by curtis , so now im confused.

Maybe Curtis made all the Brazed frames ? Rickman, Mrd, B-wheels, Pr racing...