Author Topic: Haro Gen 1 re-issue (Read 38470 times)

YGT · « **Reply #275 on:** April 24, 2007, 12:22 PM »

Quote from: christhejob on April 24, 2007, 11:53 AM

BYKE give me more opinions, i like them... i would like mark noble to EDIT a little more on occasions (for example allowing that mcfleece to utterly slag effraim catlow in an otherwise for once amusing article about NASS one year). and some of the content of interviews is utterly not needed..

Without trying too sound negative, Since Mark noble is the owner / editor I dont wish to try and help such a magazine.

In regards to how the Nobles were able to get to the position they are now, I am not entirely sure .....
But I think they went from "bmx freestyle" to "invert" to "ride"

In regards to the haro .... 20 pages LOL .... and still no real news..... maybe we could rename this thread to "the sun"

christhejob · « **Reply #276 on:** April 24, 2007, 12:29 PM »

national enquirer maybe??

to give freestyle/invert/ride its dues.. it kept going on and on even when it was at an all time low [even though it was utter sh1te at times, and it HAS got better, a lot], and none of us had such informative tinternet boards such as this, or mobile phones, in fact all this were fields... persistence pays off i guess..

but, ah man the dropouts have to be right..

Rombloke · « **Reply #277 on:** April 24, 2007, 01:33 PM »

mmmmmm...

TwoBobRob · « **Reply #278 on:** April 24, 2007, 03:26 PM »

Chaps - I'm loving this

While we're banging on about Ride, My opinion of it is that it went from very bad to very good and is now on its way back to bad again. I struggle to read it without getting angry about summat or other. As somebody mentioned earlier, my cure for this is not to buy it anymore.

As someone far more talented and successful than me once said;

Ride on and on and on and on, and I'll be sloping that cloping till the break of dawn yeah!

It's all that really matters. That and smiling while you do it

Stodgy · « **Reply #279 on:** April 24, 2007, 03:27 PM »

SaMAlex · « **Reply #280 on:** April 24, 2007, 03:29 PM »

Hmmm. Double top tube and a chainstay U brake. It is a Dragonfly?

Zippy · « **Reply #281 on:** April 24, 2007, 03:38 PM »

That's the new Gen 1

DJ · « **Reply #282 on:** April 24, 2007, 05:38 PM »

10mm slots.
seat stay lugs now.... i think.
redesigned dropouts.
& front gusset.
with black tuffs.
ive had enough.
mid-school? maybe just "no school"?
job.... drinks will ease the pain of internet forums this weekend.
alex... get to NEC this weekend & we shall thrash out this shit over whiskey.
i have a headache.
never again.

Stodgy · « **Reply #283 on:** April 24, 2007, 05:53 PM »

'Retro New School' DJ, don't give up mate. Keep the faith.

TwoBobRob · « **Reply #284 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:10 PM »

Quote from: DJ on April 24, 2007, 05:38 PM

10mm slots.
seat stay lugs now.... i think.
redesigned dropouts.
& front gusset.
with black tuffs.
ive had enough.
mid-school? maybe just "no school"?
job.... drinks will ease the pain of internet forums this weekend.
alex... get to NEC this weekend & we shall thrash out this shit over whiskey.
i have a headache.
never again.

You're funny

YGT · « **Reply #285 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:27 PM »

I really hope they dont realease that as that is a joke.
Its looks so cheaply made and designed, I wonder if haro did any work or just employed a chinese factory to "knock something up"

There is just so many small neglected points on this frame which just say ........ what a shame to try and cash in on the retro wave, and do such a poor job.

christhejob · « **Reply #286 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:38 PM »

whiskey
steaks
waffles

do you have an aquajet 9000 in your crowne plaza suite deej?

??

OrgasmDonor · « **Reply #287 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:47 PM »

Quote from: YGT on April 24, 2007, 06:27 PM

I really hope they dont realease that as that is a joke.
Its looks so cheaply made and designed, I wonder if haro did any work or just employed a chinese factory to "knock something up"

There is just so many small neglected points on this frame which just say ........ what a shame to try and cash in on the retro wave, and do such a poor job.

have to agree entirely, that looks fookin awful, i can not believe thats it, why cant they just re jig the old one with modern geometry? seems simple enough, its not fookin rocket science is it. the gussets, tubing, dropouts, even the chrome doesnt look right, (the welds are quite tidy tho) then again the re issued sport was cheap enough so what did we expect?

pickle · « **Reply #288 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:51 PM »

Quote from: YGT on April 24, 2007, 06:27 PM

I really hope they dont realease that as that is a joke.
Its looks so cheaply made and designed, I wonder if haro did any work or just employed a chinese factory to "knock something up"

There is just so many small neglected points on this frame which just say ........ what a shame to try and cash in on the retro wave, and do such a poor job.

Chill out mate......I'm sure that's just one of many proto types......i'm sure it'll be very diferent to that once it's ready, i agree that that one does look like it has it's faults....but it's trying to be as close to the original as it can, so it's never going to be like any modern frame set as it's copying something nearly 30 years old.

Lets wait and see

christhejob · « **Reply #289 on:** April 24, 2007, 06:56 PM »

call that a haro?

THIS is a haro

and err so is this

but this isn't. it's better.

YGT · « **Reply #290 on:** April 24, 2007, 07:02 PM »

Hey Pickle, i dont want to get into a long a discussion over this frame as it will create a negative vibe and thats not something I want to try and do since I have already made another jab on page 19.

Evidently this frame shown has at least 6 issues and this has nothing to do with trying to be newschool.
In fact the certain use of parts straight out of the TBS to save money at the same time as ignoring the integrity of the original design.

I dont like this frame because its appears to be very cheeply manufactured, and based on the design shown so far I am presuming it will be made in china which inturn means the quality of production will be a major factor and cause issues with the BB and HT.

end rant.

pickle · « **Reply #291 on:** April 24, 2007, 08:25 PM »

No worries mate

hey we're all entitled to our oppinion mate..........it's all good

Love and peace man

WizardWeb · « **Reply #292 on:** April 24, 2007, 09:07 PM »

Quote from: YGT on April 24, 2007, 07:02 PM

Hey Pickle, i dont want to get into a long a discussion over this frame as it will create a negative vibe and thats not something I want to try and do since I have already made another jab on page 19.

Evidently this frame shown has at least 6 issues and this has nothing to do with trying to be newschool.
In fact the certain use of parts straight out of the TBS to save money at the same time as ignoring the integrity of the original design.

I dont like this frame because its appears to be very cheeply manufactured, and based on the design shown so far I am presuming it will be made in china which inturn means the quality of production will be a major factor and cause issues with the BB and HT.

end rant.

The quality of the production versions will undoubtedly be better. AS DJ says, some items on the frame have changed - lugs, drop-outs and gusset. A lot of design prototypes aren't made as well as they could be because they're used to plan the run and for marketing to do their thing.

For instance, A couple of years ago somebody stole some MTB proto's after the interbike show and Haro asked for them back because they weren't heat treated frames. Being America, despite the fact they were stolen proto's someone would have sued if they broke, which they probably would have. No idea if they got them back.....