Author Topic: Haro Gen 1 re-issue (Read 38585 times)

darkersomeday · « **Reply #200 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:37 PM »

Quote from: Stodgy on January 08, 2007, 10:05 PM

Quote from: billstup on January 08, 2007, 10:00 PM
It`s good to have an opinion, and even better to share it

Absolutely!

after thinking about it it does seem more and more like a cynical sales ploy,

its the 20.5 toptube that makes me suspicious, many completes are aimed at smaller rider just starting out these usually have a 20.5 toptube,

i can accept that many of these retro gen 1 bikes will go to collectors and thats fine, fair do's if you want an inanimate object to drool over and show your mates.

but this scenario worries me,

dad and his kid go to "A" bike shop,

dad; "do you sell bmx's"

staff; "yes there over here with the prams and scooters"

kid; "i like this one dad! its just like the one my favourite rider rides"

dad; "oooooh look at this beauty son! its just like the one i wanted when i was a kid but couldnt have!"

kid; "i know dad but this ones actually cheaper!"

dad; "wowee! look at it! its chrome and the stickers are just the same! i'm telling you son thats a great bike! go on i'll treat you to the extra cash for it!"

kid; "oh ok then dad!"

later at the skatepark the kid is gutted at the laughs he keeps getting and the questions of "what on earth is that! why didnt you buy a XXXX bike?"
kid is now stuck with a freak of a bike and cant tell his dad as he doesnt want to hurt his dads feelings
kid stops riding.

harsh but true.

billstup · « **Reply #201 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:42 PM »

There won`t be any left for pesky kids to buy once us old gits have got our hands on them, they are only building 3000 of them and most will stay stateside anyway

darkersomeday · « **Reply #202 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:49 PM »

i'll have another redbull and we'll can all be friends!

tell you what! as a peace offering!

build this bike with a properly tested post heat treated 100% cromoly frame
in a selection of popular sizes
decent quality chrome plate
14mm machined dropouts
use a dia compe brake on the seatsays so it looks right
75 degree headtube
keep the mid bottom bracket
SKYWAY TUFF WHEELS maybe graphites with sealed bearings,
tioga tyres, newschool
odi long necks
decent forks
maybe some redline flights or profiles,i'm sure they still make them,
finish it off with some other old school classic brands and

i'll buy one.

darkersomeday · « **Reply #203 on:** January 08, 2007, 10:55 PM »

Quote from: billstup on January 08, 2007, 10:42 PM

There won`t be any left for pesky kids to buy once us old gits have got our hands on them, they are only building 3000 of them and most will stay stateside anyway

lol

good luck with the project though, i didnt mean to cause offence or upset!

its only one persons opinion,
i've enjoyed this thread,

p.s
if you even think about putting pegs or a gyro on that bike

i will be having your pants down!

billstup · « **Reply #204 on:** January 08, 2007, 11:11 PM »

Quote from: darkersomeday on January 08, 2007, 10:49 PM

i'll have another redbull and we'll can all be friends!

tell you what! as a peace offering!

build this bike with a properly tested post heat treated 100% cromoly frame
in a selection of popular sizes
decent quality chrome plate
14mm machined dropouts
use a dia compe brake on the seatsays so it looks right
75 degree headtube
keep the mid bottom bracket
SKYWAY TUFF WHEELS maybe graphites with sealed bearings,
tioga tyres, newschool
odi long necks
decent forks
maybe some redline flights or profiles,i'm sure they still make them,
finish it off with some other old school classic brands and

i'll buy one.

I could buy a frame and fork and build one to that spec with the spare parts I have , so get ready for a heafty bill

christhejob · « **Reply #205 on:** January 09, 2007, 12:29 AM »

Quote from: steve1275 on January 08, 2007, 05:54 PM

I think its cool that you have all these rider owned companies but they all wanna be big fish in a little pond that does dry out time to time, and making the COOLEST stuff is not gonna keep you afloat. I had a haro airmaster in 92 93 with a bash guard and i thought it rocked. Carlo and fellow riders used to ride them with carlo doing 16foot airs and 10ft 540s, i dont think he would have chosen to ride them if they were shit

sorry, but these were REALLY REALLY shit bikes. The frames in 92 were shit. All of them. Carlo and me and you and everyone rode them because that is all there was. and they sucked, and they broke, and that's why SBC and S&M and Hoffman and homeless (ahem) started.
AND
20 or 20.5 for the GEN1 would actually meet a lot of still riding ex but dabbling flatlanders buying these and riding. a la heatons when they came out as they has the feel of the old groundmasters. 21 inch my arse!!

Rombloke · « **Reply #206 on:** January 09, 2007, 07:28 AM »

later at the skatepark the kid is gutted at the laughs he keeps getting and the questions of "what on earth is that! why didnt you buy a XXXX bike?"
kid is now stuck with a freak of a bike and cant tell his dad as he doesnt want to hurt his dads feelings
kid stops riding.

harsh but true.

thatll be the fashion thing again then!!

Dave

DJ · « **Reply #207 on:** January 09, 2007, 09:21 AM »

Anyway, this Gen1 bike.... Bob Haro dropped off the ORIGINAL drawings to the very first Freestyler to Haro yesterday, just saw some pics!!! Now thats impressive!

Stodgy · « **Reply #208 on:** January 09, 2007, 09:29 AM »

Brilliant! It's about time we had some good BMX debate!

Kid: "Dad, the big boys are laughing at me at the skatepark. I don't want to ride this anymore."

Dad: "No worries son, I'll buy you something else and keep that one for myself" {smug in the knowledge that dad got his own way in the end}

Thanks chaps - that was good fun.

Oh, Darkersomeday - I'll probably have a gyro on mine...please please promise to leave my pants alone.

Rombloke · « **Reply #209 on:** January 09, 2007, 04:41 PM »

Quote from: DJ on January 09, 2007, 09:21 AM

Anyway, this Gen1 bike.... Bob Haro dropped off the ORIGINAL drawings to the very first Freestyler to Haro yesterday, just saw some pics!!! Now thats impressive!

dave...you got pm

Dave

Stodgy · « **Reply #210 on:** January 09, 2007, 05:34 PM »

It would be cool to see those Mr Jones.

Rombloke · « **Reply #211 on:** January 09, 2007, 10:12 PM »

Dave

darkersomeday · « **Reply #212 on:** January 09, 2007, 10:26 PM »

Quote from: DJ on January 09, 2007, 09:21 AM

Anyway, bobs big Gen1.... Bob Haro dropped his pants for the very first time at Haro yesterday, just saw some pics!!! Now thats impressive!

i'm sorry i just couldnt help it!

no offence intended at all,
i'm just a child grown older,

can we see the pics?
i'd be well interested

DJ · « **Reply #213 on:** January 10, 2007, 06:05 PM »

Opps, jumped the gun, the drawings were'nt bought in by Bob, they are Bobs drawings which are now at Haro.. still no bad tho, the original crawings of the very first freestyle bike, thats frickin impressive! I cant post pics so....

MartyC · « **Reply #214 on:** January 10, 2007, 07:31 PM »

Quote from: DJ on January 10, 2007, 06:05 PM

Opps, jumped the gun, the drawings were'nt bought in by Bob, they are Bobs drawings which are now at Haro.. still no bad tho, the original crawings of the very first freestyle bike, thats frickin impressive! I cant post pics so....

Email the pics to Dave (Rombloke) or Stodgy, or me or anyone else on here and we'll post them

Bob_Acid · « **Reply #215 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:33 PM »

i must stop drinking whisky, i onlyt started feeling normal about an hour ago $:-\$

billstup · « **Reply #216 on:** January 10, 2007, 08:37 PM »

Quote from: Bob_Acid on January 10, 2007, 08:33 PM

i must stop drinking whisky, i onlyt started feeling normal about an hour ago $:-\$

Is that your `normal` or our type of `normal` Bob

jT Racing · « **Reply #217 on:** January 11, 2007, 07:32 PM »

this thread is fun to read.

Bob_Acid · « **Reply #218 on:** January 11, 2007, 09:53 PM »

My post got deleted?

billstup · « **Reply #219 on:** January 11, 2007, 10:15 PM »

Quote from: Bob_Acid on January 11, 2007, 09:53 PM

My post got deleted?

It was because of the response from darksomebody Bob, I couldn`t delete his with out deleting yours, sorry

Bob_Acid · « **Reply #220 on:** January 11, 2007, 10:54 PM »

shame, i missed the response

theRuler · « **Reply #221 on:** January 11, 2007, 10:55 PM »

this thread has been going 8 months

when does the bike get released?

billstup · « **Reply #222 on:** January 11, 2007, 10:56 PM »

Quote from: Bob_Acid on January 11, 2007, 10:54 PM

shame, i missed the response

It wasn`t very nice Bob, thats why it had to go

DIRTBIKER250F · « **Reply #223 on:** January 11, 2007, 11:54 PM »

TALKING ABOUT FIRST GEN COMPANY'S SELLING OUT TO NEW SCHOOL PROFIT MARGIN'S.
NEARLY THREE YEAR'S AGO I LEFT FOX RACING EUROPE, I COME FROM A BMX TURNED MOTO X TURNED 32YR OLD BMXER SO IN 2001 I GOT THE JOB OF MY DREAM'S WORKIN IN THE WAREHOUSE AT FOX GATESHEAD. I WORKED HARD AND A YEAR LATER GOT PROMOTED TO WAREHOUSE MANAGER, THE HIGHER IN FOX I GOT THE MORE BULLSHIT I LEARN'T. FOX HAS OVER £200.000 WORTH OF PRODUCT EVERY YEAR THAT PASSES IT'S DEALER SELL BY DATE IE OVER 4 YEAR'S OLD.
THIS IS STORED IN A "OTHER" WAREHOUSE OUT OF SITE OF VISITING DIGNITRIES FROM USA FOX. IT PROBABLY HAS GROWN ALOT MORE THAN THAT IN THE YEAR'S SINCE 2004.
ANYWAY, I HAD THE IDEA THAT INSTEAD OF BURNING ALL THIS PERFECTLY GOOD GEAR I ASKED A LOCAL BIKE SHOP IF THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SUPPLYING MX SCHOOL'S WITH THE GEAR (THEY E-MAILED OTHER SCHOOL'S AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HAD A FANTASTIC RESPONCE, THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE MOST OF THE "OUT OF DATE" CLOTHING,PAD'S,GEAR AND KIT KIDS OR NOVICE ADULT'S OUT. KID'S WHO ARE LEARNING BIKE SKILL'S FOR THE FIRST TIME OR ADULTS WHO ARE RETURNING TO BIKE SPORT AFTER YEAR'S IN THE WILDERNESS.WHAT A IDEA I THOUGHT, GOOD FOR FOX TO HELP OUT LIKE THIS AS 30YRS AGO FOX STARTED OUT SUPPLING STICKER'S AT BMX AND MOTO X EVENT'S.REMEMBER ALL THIS STUFF WAS GOING TO GET BURN'T AT FOX'S COST SO WHY NOT TURN IT INTO SOMTHING POSITIVE. THIS "OUT OF DATE" GEAR WAS FOR ALL BIKE SPORT'S AND THE SAME COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH ALL THE BMX AND MTB STUFF THAT WAS STORED AWAY.
RIGHT AM GONNA CUT THIS STORY SHORT AS I AM GETTING BORED WRITING IT!!!
THERE WAS A BIG FIRE, FOX DIDNT WANT TO DE VALUE IT'S BRAND BY LETTING "ANYONE" WEAR IT!!!! I LOST INTEREST IN WORKING FOR GUY'S WHO CARED MORE ABOUT THEIR OWN FREE GEAR THAN THE ROOT OF THE SPORT THAT FUNDED THEIR EXTREME LIFESTYLES, AND THE MANAGING DIRECTOR HAS A NEW M5

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I NOW MAKE SURE NEWCASTLE BROWN LEAVES THE BREWERY AND ENJOY BIKES AS MUCH AS EVER

IF IT AINT BROKE ! TRY HARDER !!