E.T paintjob or powder

[superbikedan]

I hope FHM Reader doesn't read this thread as he might put his prices up.    He could double his price and still be competitive. 

his price does seem really cheap if that includes materials as well as stripping

the old paint off

[ozone]

I hope FHM Reader doesn't read this thread as he might put his prices up.    He could double his price and still be competitive. 

his price does seem really cheap if that includes materials as well as stripping

the old paint off

The people I know who've sent him frames had stripped them themselves but he still gave them a quick blast prior to powdering them.  I'm sure the price includes materials and return shipping. 

A full strip might be classed as an extra. 

[splodge]

Go on, give it a go yourself 



What have you got to lose...apart from 2 cans of red, 1 white, lacquer... primer..... a day sanding & prep..... err....

(I did actually cock it up first time so this was the 2nd attempt) 

[ozone]

Go on, give it a go yourself 



What have you got to lose...apart from 2 cans of red, 1 white, lacquer... primer..... a day sanding & prep..... err....

(I did actually cock-a-doodle-do it up first time so this was the 2nd attempt) 

That does look pretty amazing for a DIY effort.    

[monkian]

I hope the frames getting done are actual Kuwies and not molested Tange Hot Hearts

[oldskooldayz]

As far as I'm aware it's a Kuwi
Gussett hole is too small to be a drilled out hot heart
Frame is a T3 but that only the year

[ronster]

I hope the frames getting done are actual Kuwies and not molested Tange Hot Hearts

So do I dude ...I blimmin love them and now kick myself for not buying one a few years ago when they were cheap

[splodge]

I hope the frames getting done are actual Kuwies and not molested Tange Hot Hearts

I can confirm mine as the real deal, had it since 1983, still got the receipt & owners handbook 

[hunterdubber]

Joe mate , E.T's are all  T2 

and it is possible to make a Hot heart the exact same size gusset hole as a KYZ E.T  ,that's why there's so many  copies  , apart from the bad attempt ones 

Its probably a Kuwahara KYZ

To be honest I'd have a do yourself ,, all you need is patience ,, it took me basically a weekend to do one, and £70 for quality  paint made into aerosols


Here's one I did about 3 years ago ( terrible photos  )

 

[oldskooldayz]

Wow all the hot heart jobs I've seen always look like a bigger hole to me
But I will take your word for it
So tell me why must they all be T2 stamped then as the number only dictates the year
I understand the first ones came alone in 82 but why not 83 or am I missing something
Were they not produced in 83 due to demand ?
Yep seen the kyz frames and they are identical in everyway from what I can see
Other then the forks they came with

Oh and great attemp it looks really sweet for a can job
I just don't have the time to do it myself and it would probably come out looking more like B.T than E.T 

Cheers

[hunterdubber]

Yeah rule of thumb is 1982 for E.T's and most Hot heart /Mamba 1983  , although I saw a 1982 Chrome Hot heart frame sell in Austrailia last year 

The only genuine E.T's I 've seen on here have been Gashead's , Meticulous, glynnyboy ,J.T racing, Church,Splodge and Radman's /mine

but I've seen more than double that many copies on here and Ebay without looking for them.

Some very very good copies ,,some not so good

[hunterdubber]

All depending on what year some KYZ's have the same rear looptail
 but  different gusset holes , slightly wider and a small hole near it on the gusset (like a KZ! has)







 This one has the same size gusset hole as an E.T 








KYZ converted to an E.T. ,, but wrong size diameter hole on this one 

[oldskooldayz]

See what your saying on the kz same little hole mine defo doesn't have that
And the hole on mine is not like that kyz one you have shown

Even though mine is probably a kyz I'm still on the fence about them not being produced with a t3 stamp
I reckon due to over manufacture they also had em chromed and sold as kyz's

I have had my frame up against an 82 e.t and it's exactly the same from welds to gusset hole
So really interesting stuff this is

Would love to know the real production backroom outage on the frame
To see what happened and howvthey treated all the stock
As a nova is again the same frMe witout the gusset and that's an 83

[hunterdubber]

DAMM mines a kz1 guess its a snide   

 

Well not according to the film , Elliot doesn't ride an E.T. Kuwahara  

God that sounds wrong

Yours is  gonna be even more genuine filo mou  Costa 

 


The Hot hearts and KYZ's are the ones that get used for snides , ,,,the rear looptail  


Fookin hell Costa  you'd need proper skills ,,and be an absolute loon to ruin a KZ1 ,,chopping  the back end off it 

then fabricate a rear looptail end , and weld it on ..  

[hunterdubber]

Joe , I'm with you what your saying about stock and using stuff up on different production runs

,, the KYZ were made with the same metal .by the same people, in the same factory

just the will have left in a different year , with different paint or chrome finishes

All companies did or do the same

the Diamond back small gusset silver streak became the Pacer 500, ,only difference year manufacture and decals 

[ozone]

See what your saying on the kz same little hole mine defo doesn't have that
And the hole on mine is not like that kyz one you have shown

Even though mine is probably a kyz I'm still on the fence about them not being produced with a t3 stamp
I reckon due to over manufacture they also had em chromed and sold as kyz's

I have had my frame up against an 82 e.t and it's exactly the same from welds to gusset hole
So really interesting stuff this is

Would love to know the real production backroom outage on the frame
To see what happened and howvthey treated all the stock
As a nova is again the same frMe witout the gusset and that's an 83

Put some pics of the gusset and stamp up so the Kuwahara buffs on here (not me  ) can have a gander...

[splodge]

Those pics of the KYZ's look as though the seat tube is longer than ET's therefore the rear triangle from the seat tube to the rear drop outs looks steeper, is that just the angle of the pics or sonething else different? 

[oldskooldayz]

I will pop senpics up late late enough when I'm home
So can be seen tomorrow

Oh and just incase it's read wrong I didn't mean that a nova is a E.T just without the gusset just ment as stated parts being used up

Cheers

[trasher]

i fancy doing an et one day ,,,but to the same spec as elliots in the film 

[hunterdubber]

i fancy doing an et one day ,,,but to the same spec as elliots in the film 

Getting the KZ1 frameset is the easy bit
 
Very hard work to decide the parts spec to go with Glen , as they used a few different bike for Elliott in the movie , it actually changes in different scenes 

but then again you could just say you've got it right , as it's just educated guessing , looking at freeze frames of the movie,,

I don't think even Howie Cohen would even no for sure and he supplied the movie bikes  for Speilberg 

Danny D I think is doing one in his group of 3 E.T's

and Jimwise has done a good Elliot movie Kuwy, but should've been on a KZ1 frame a few years ago

[superbikedan]

back to the paint work, is there certain dimensions on the white to red,

some of the pics looks differant where the fade on the top tube starts

and also the straight line mask on the rear loop, on the top tube some of the

pics the white looks really short in length

[hunterdubber]

Here's a Kuwahara KZ1 ( not E.T KZ 2.5 )  , just like Elliott rode in the movie

This is what I'd say looks bang on except for the decals are E.T ones and not KZ1  

belongs to guy called hidekazu shinohara


Now that's nice  

[hunterdubber]

back to the paint work, is there certain dimensions on the white to red,

some of the pics looks differant where the fade on the top tube starts

and also the straight line mask on the rear loop, on the top tube some of the

pics the white looks really short in length

The pics Glynny posted up are of his original survivor in the E.T forks thread

 so I suppose he knows what were right on his 

,, but I reckon like with anything on these old school bmx there was slight difference and error  and not as exact and fussy as we are , when we're restoring 'em

I mean ,, the decals on alot of bikes back then are not inline or perfectly centred ,, quickly hand applied  factory production 

[oldskooldayz]

Oh why did you do that

I'm gonna have to watch the movie now tonight to see the bike again   

[splodge]

So to be clear about this, theres actually 4 different style ET bikes flying about 

The 'Elliot film ET' which is a Kz, non looptail, with chunky tyres, red horseshoe stem, rattrap pedals.

Then 3 bikes sold to the public:
'ET Original' which had a tange made T2 frame with high end components, sugino spider, stem, diacompe brakes kkt pedals, Ukai's with large flange hubs.

'ET Replica' same Tange T2 frame as the original but lower end components, horseshoe stem, rattrap pedals, chrome steel Ukai's

'ET Special' known as the toystore model, Apollo frame, crappy components & was just basically a copy of the real thing.

Does everyone agree with that?!