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alex u have me interested if s&m didnt do the whole customised frame thing then a standard atf would be like a pbr
what i was getting at is it seems like to me that the standard off the shelf atf from the current s&m range is a no frills frame just like the pbr was
i know the dirtbike is a no frills frame but the dirtbike has the history of being a classic s&m, the camwood, cardona etc.. are those riders sig frames so they will always have that connection, the atf dosent have any connection thats kinda what im getting atits not about the actual frame, more the history/ connection to riders which makes some frames feel more special, i think thats what im getting at bit like a mk1 or a ramp room condor is more special than a taiwain built one