Author Topic: The fastest BMX on the road? new pics of Hutch inspired build on P2 (Read 5984 times)

emerbmx · « **on:** July 30, 2010, 03:15 PM »

I'm sure it's not but...

I was fed up of seeing fixies and fed up of being overtaken by mountain bike's, racers and folding bikes.
I still ride my 20 inch alot, but for long distances I'll ride this.

I've been working on this for quite some time, the sketches started about 2 and half years ago, but thanks to Mark Noble who hooked me up with a quality manufacturer, I received some prototypes earlier this year.

The idea behind it is to make a BMX which can beat fixies to the pub- Plus I wanted the cruiser to have identical geometry to a modern BMX so the bike remains responsive and manuals are easier.

I commissioned Seb Lester, an ex flatland rider and one of the best type designers in the UK to design the graphics.
and if design is your thing there's a story about it on the Creative Review website

The frame is in prototype stages at the moment, I have a handful available
check below for details
http://www.emerbicycles.com/

emerbmx · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2010, 01:07 PM »

What's everyones thoughts on this before it faces the onslaught

of the 'less considered' forums.

gobshite · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2010, 01:29 PM »

i shouldnt like it......

but i do strangely

something about it makes me think raleigh super burner, maybe its just the black and gold?

i want one to commute to work on,

maybe not with the "haemmoroid inducing" seat!

can i test one with a view to buy?

meticulous · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2010, 01:32 PM »

i really like it and would suit my fat lazy riding style much better....

though i would like to see a comfier seat...

sweetbeats · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2010, 01:34 PM »

The wheels look fookin massive-love the raleigh 70's racer tyres though-look well quick

HEYWOOD BMX · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2010, 01:39 PM »

Looks good,is it up to being thrown around on street or a track? And why a caliper brake?

emerbmx · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2010, 02:14 PM »

Thanks for comments guys.
Dark Sunday
good point- on not wanting to like it
For me- it's not in anyway meant to replace a 20 inch - as nothing can in my opinion.
but it's a hell of a lot closer than any or these ridiculous 'fixie feels just like a bmx' claims.

I've rode it in the bowl at Cantelowes and it feels alot like my 20inch (as it's the blueprint for the geometry).
The adaption from a 20 is pretty seamless.- but I won't be replacing my 20 anytime soon.

I only have a couple of prototypes at the moment, but if you're ever in the area, you're welcome to have a go on it.

Meticulous
you're right the seat sucks for comfort, i've just bought a slim padded seat for it.

Sweebeats, yep I wanted it pretty tight and responsive, and I'm loving the tanwalls at the moment

Voivod
the quality and metals share the same quality manufacturing as Deluxe BMX.
It wasn't designed for Dan Lacey style 3s down a 20 step but it's certainly designed to hold up to a minimum of smooth airing and jumping.
re the caliper- I wanted to keep the bike as sleek as possible, (I was almost even tempted to go for a 1inch headset, then I woke up)
I've found double pivot calipers really strong performers, nice and compact.

sweetbeats · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2010, 02:22 PM »

Tanwalls it is then

gobshite · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2010, 02:41 PM »

cool,

tanwalls really suit it,

they put me in mind of my old bsa with cowhorns,

nostalgia,

right, i need to lie down.

sweetbeats · « **Reply #9 on:** August 13, 2010, 02:45 PM »

Quote from: darksunday on August 13, 2010, 02:41 PM

cool,

tanwalls really suit it,

they put me in mind of my old bsa with cowhorns,

nostalgia,

right, i need to lie down.

Had never even heard of Tanwalls until today

Cow handelbars and stand up wheelies ahhhhhh happy days

RATTY · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2010, 03:05 PM »

Im actually liking that a lot, if your ever down south, id love to take it for a spin. Well done

generallee · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2010, 03:27 PM »

well done JOhann, really well done!

SaMAlex · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2010, 03:42 PM »

The other week when you told me you were working on this bike i had NO clue what you were saying. But seeing it now it all makes sense. Its really nice, and I totally get what you mean, riding into town fast but still able to hop around and get the front wheel up. I use a 24" BMX for a similar thing but its got big comp3s on it and its not very fast. I have thought a few times about "slickin" it up; the clean good looks of a "fixie" (but without the idiot riding it) and all the fun of a BMX.

I like it loads, nice one

jimwise68 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 13, 2010, 03:50 PM »

Liking that ALOT!!!!

Could do with one for commuting myself, what's the pricing for the full bike?

beard1973 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 13, 2010, 03:51 PM »

Quote from: darksunday on August 13, 2010, 01:29 PM

something about it makes me think raleigh super burner, maybe its just the black and gold?

Ultra Burner....

baldbmxer · « **Reply #15 on:** August 13, 2010, 03:57 PM »

Hey Johann

The bike is looking good, but those graphics are so rad! Still loving them since i saw them on the CR site a few weeks ago.

JJ

emerbmx · « **Reply #16 on:** August 13, 2010, 04:17 PM »

Thanks guys, good to hear from alot of you

Alex you've hit the nail on the head

Quote from: S&MAlex on August 13, 2010, 03:42 PM

riding into town fast but still able to hop around and get the front wheel up. I use a 24" BMX for a similar thing but its got big comp3s on it and its not very fast. I have thought a few times about "slickin" it up; the clean good looks of a "fixie" (but without the idiot riding it) and all the fun of a BMX.

good to hear from you Jim,
no price yet, but certainly cheaper than a decent road bike

jimwise68 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 13, 2010, 04:28 PM »

good to hear from you Jim,
no price yet, but certainly cheaper than a decent road bike

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Bo-lax recently spent £600 on a road bike

Let me know when they are ready to sell

brettypeeps · « **Reply #18 on:** August 13, 2010, 04:58 PM »

Looking nice and retro

Uber cool
great colour Scheme

Yeah I agree that I shouldn't like it but for some reason I do

kev-s · « **Reply #19 on:** August 13, 2010, 10:00 PM »

looks good

i ride a flat handle bar road bike to work everyday (20 mile round trip)

they can be ridden like a bmx it just takes a little more effort/control, hopping up and down kerbs is easy aswell as wheelies and my manuals are getting better, no footied nose wheelies to a stop at the traffic lights is next

its quite funny when i pass a lycra clad roadie's then hop off the kerb then hop back up into a manual, then look back and watch them bump both wheels up the kerb

moochalargo · « **Reply #20 on:** August 13, 2010, 10:32 PM »

Cool project dude. Like some of the others it's saying ultra burner to me!

ED209 · « **Reply #21 on:** August 14, 2010, 09:05 PM »

I'm thinking sexy skinny Bomber - really like it - graphics are sick

and F**K the less considered forums BTW

harris · « **Reply #22 on:** August 14, 2010, 09:20 PM »

when we catch back up ,i will pop up to london and try it out..as alex said i wasnt sure how it would look/work but i see
what you mean..

Juju · « **Reply #23 on:** August 14, 2010, 09:36 PM »

Seems to be to be a solution looking for a problem.

This is just a bmx with big wheels. There are already cruisers for that, and if you want a fast bike, you get a racing/hybrid frame - ergonomically, they just work better. Off road ? Cyclocross. If you want a shorter easier geometry, you get an mtb or a cruiser. You want to go quick but comfy, get a hybrid.

Who is this aimed at exactly? A Bmx that, er can't bmx, or a racer that, er can't race.

What is the point of a chunky, heavy frame, overbuilt frame and adding 700c wheels? And surely not to go with the design ethic, theyre not 23's are they? You want speed, but this thing with the need for 100+psi will be blowing pinch/snakebite flats every ride. Its like putting lipstick on a pig. Even 650c wheels might work better. It's like you thought of the problem of wanting bigger wheels and a chunky frame and instead of inventing the mtb, because that was 30 years ago, you got all thr wrong answers and came up with this.

Dont get me wrong, its a funky design, but in much the same way as my idea for a convertible submarine....

If somes got an mtb for off road or a cruiser for off road/bmx duties, and a hybrid/road bike for other duties, then the cyclocross niche already fulfills slight off road with big wheels. Who is actually going to pay money to add to this if they already got 2-3 bikes (like me) or to the point, who's going to ditch one of those, for this. You can stick skinny tyres or rims on many mtb's. Even my Orange p7 will accomodate them. Whats this do that anOrange p7 single speed with 650 or 700cs and long rigid forks do?

I like it, but it isn't the answer to anything, nor will it sell well or make you a decent return on your investment imho.

But if you believe, don't listen to the naysayers like me.

Now, if you can make me an old school, chrome plated, gussetted looptail 24 or 26, like the fabled but rarely sighted Diamond Back cruisers of the early 80's, then your talking.

fischflo · « **Reply #24 on:** August 14, 2010, 10:10 PM »

well, i like it. And i could imagine enough others, too, to make this skinny bomber -- ED209 hit it-- gain some airspace
----the rebirth idea i like; don't understand why it hasn't been done since a long time already

at first sight on the first pic it looked dark grey-blue -very nice

range at last !! now nothing can stop us !!!!