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monkian

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S&M Spotters Guide
« on: May 05, 2010, 09:08 PM »
Can anyone help point me in the right direction. Serial number clues, designs changes etc.
I've got a chance of buying one but I'd like to know what's what.

Thanks in advance, Paul :)

Bettyswallocks

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2010, 09:29 PM »
Come on spill the beans

What have you been offered?

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 09:37 PM »
As soon as I know, you'll be the the first to know ???
No wait the second to know ;D

Bettyswallocks

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 09:48 PM »
Useful link for old ads and stuff

http://ryanpartridge.blogspot.com/

Theres shedloads of S&M's on bmx museum and its always worth having a good look round the mid section on ere

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 10:09 PM »
Thanks for the link :daumenhoch:
I've had a look around the usual places and I'm getting a better idea.
I could still do with knowing how to read a serial number ???

andy_116

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 10:54 PM »
SMD at the start means dirtbike, HXL means Holmes if that helps

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 10:59 PM »
SMD at the start means dirtbike, HXL means Holmes if that helps

Cool. So it's a Dirtbike :daumenhoch:
Just need to find the year now. 4 digits? ???

Bettyswallocks

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 11:02 PM »
I dont think you can date frames from the serial number, if its a nineties frame you're looking at it'll have a three letter/4 digit serial number

Dirtbike SMD ****
Holmes HXL ****
Challenger SCP **** or SCP L **** (long version)

Hope that helps...  :daumenhoch:


Edit.... i typed that out before seeing the reply above... lol
« Last Edit: May 05, 2010, 11:04 PM by Betty »

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 11:08 PM »
So you only get the year from the design spec.
Double thick drop-outs, chain-stay lugs any other pointers? ???

Bettyswallocks

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 11:12 PM »
Double drop out frames are early ones, 90/91 ish

990 lugs on the chainstays were optional so some have em some dont...  :daumenhoch:

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 11:16 PM »
OK, thanks for all your help :daumenhoch:
So I guess the double drop-outs were replaced by a single thicker drop out.

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 11:22 PM »
also early ones came with plates instead of tubes connecting the seat and chain stays, early ones also had thinner chain and seat stay tubes iirc

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 11:37 PM »
Thanks man :daumenhoch:
I'm working on getting some pics. I'll post them as soon as.

andy_116

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 10:42 PM »
any luck with those pictures? im intrigued

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2010, 10:46 PM »
any luck with those pictures? im intrigued

Unfortunately, still nothing from the guy :-\
Not sure it's going to happen :(

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2010, 09:53 PM »
Unfortunately it didn't happen. Here's some shots though.
Dirt Bike but the year was the issue.



Rory2

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2010, 10:20 PM »
i saw those on ebay for sale in hastings area, isnt it  an oversize dirtbike ?
the seller didnt give much measurement info on auction

ben5575

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2010, 10:37 PM »
I *think* that my two Dirtbikes are ‘94’s if this helps...

Some pictures here on Pink Bike (sorry ::) ):

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4668483/  (bought off Craig on here)

http://ben5575.pinkbike.com/album/1994-SandM-Dirt-Bike-Black/ (bought off eBay, images pre paint)

O/T Just in case 'The Captain’ happens to read this post, this is what came of your Da Bomb CR8 frame you sold me back in November last year.  As you can see I had a little fun with it!!!
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4651059/


Ben

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2010, 10:52 PM »
i saw those on ebay for sale in hastings area, isnt it  an oversize dirtbike ?
the seller didnt give much measurement info on auction

Yeah, that's the one. Not much info (Frame No: smd8078) and he didn't get the extra pics to me.
I wanted to work something out but now it's not available :-\

I *think* that my two Dirtbikes are ‘94’s if this helps...

Ben


Looks pretty similar to my untrained eye :daumenhoch:

ben5575

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2010, 11:16 PM »
The bike in my second link is frame #SMD8455 and is deffo a 1".  I would therefore assume that the frame you were looking at pre dates it and would also be 1" :daumenhoch:

Ben

monkian

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 11:21 PM »
Makes sense to me. Thanks man 8) :daumenhoch:
Shame I missed out.

SaMAlex

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 08:31 AM »
I have got a frame number from a 1" dirtbike that is SMD9323, although thats an odd one. Most of the latest ones are around 6000ish. Ive also got an Over Sized one that is SMD7728. I guess that frame number could be OS or 1" but it was probably right around the time they started doing Over sized frames (they did both for a while). The clamp on stem in the pic suggests its Over sized.

thecaptain

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 12:06 PM »
I *think* that my two Dirtbikes are ‘94’s if this helps...

Some pictures here on Pink Bike (sorry ::) ):

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4668483/  (bought off Craig on here)

http://ben5575.pinkbike.com/album/1994-SandM-Dirt-Bike-Black/ (bought off eBay, images pre paint)

O/T Just in case 'The Captain’ happens to read this post, this is what came of your Da Bomb CR8 frame you sold me back in November last year.  As you can see I had a little fun with it!!!
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4651059/


Ben

thats pretty sweet mate, however I dont remember selling that frame...

ben5575

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2010, 03:11 PM »
Jeeez, I was convinced I bought it from a female dog who lights fires on eBay  ???  Sorry 'bout that, I must be losing it - I am sure it was off somebody on here.

Ben

thecaptain

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Re: S&M Spotters Guide
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2010, 04:15 PM »
Jeeez, I was convinced I bought it from a female dog who lights fires on eBay  ???  Sorry 'bout that, I must be losing it - I am sure it was off somebody on here.

Ben
after a re-think, I think it may have been me after all, long time ago though, sweet to see it built up mate

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