Author Topic: Hutch Copy (Read 6860 times)

RMB76 · « **on:** April 27, 2010, 04:35 PM »

Hi

Im a new member to forum and recently bought a Hutch Hollywood. I think its pretty amazing, but it seems it has been subject to some scrutiny on this site and questions have been been raised over it's authenticity. I hope I haven't been ripped off, but if I have I think its the greatest fake of all time. What should I be looking for on the frame and the crank?

RMB76

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2010, 06:40 PM »

as Glen said,and also the location of the weep holes(how many) on the rear triangle and do they look like they've been punched or drilled.

Forgot to add,i've got a Hollywood,so can do some direct comparisons for you. Welcome to the site .

RMB76 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:31 PM »

Im being thick I know but how do you add pictures

RB

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:35 PM »

photobucket,but you'll have to ask Glen about the tech side of that,i'm fick as sh#t when it come to puters!! i do know you have to copy the IMG code of the pics you've up loaded to P.B. then paste them on here.

otterolly · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:40 PM »

RMB76 heres the previous thread about your bike, looks like the cranks are fake

http://www.radbmx.co.uk/forum/index.php'topic=107108.0

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:57 PM »

bit curious about the brake bridge,looks like it's welded on top of the stays as opposed to in the middle of them. Only "HUTCH"'s i've seen like that are the XL24'S ,other than that,possibly a Hutchins frame. RMB76,how thick are the rear dropouts? 1.7 or 4.2mm?

RMB76 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2010, 07:57 PM »

IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/Hanney39/MBs057.jpg[/IMG]

IMG]http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac222/Hanney39/MBs055.jpg[/IMG]

hows that

RB

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:01 PM »

the finish on the brake bridge looks very thin,and no evidence of any stamping.... Hutchins??

Rodgy1970 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:20 PM »

Quote from: HUTCHMAN on April 27, 2010, 08:01 PM

the finish on the brake bridge looks very thin,and no evidence of any stamping.... Hutchins??

If you use the tab at the bottom of the pic of the brake bridge to go over to the right I think you can just make out a stamp!!

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:23 PM »

Quote from: rodgy on April 27, 2010, 08:20 PM

Quote from: HUTCHMAN on April 27, 2010, 08:01 PM
the finish on the brake bridge looks very thin,and no evidence of any stamping.... Hutchins??

If you use the tab at the bottom of the pic of the brake bridge to go over to the right I think you can just make out a stamp!!

your right... good eyes!! i thought it was a bit of dirt.

BENDYCAT ELEVENTEEN · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:26 PM »

hope this help you out lads - the two links were missing a bit - here the two other ones for you to check - cheers B

trasher · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:27 PM »

deffo a stamp

jT Racing · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:31 PM »

i can see the stamp. I didn't know the hollywood frames were made in japan, thought they were earlier than that. That one is for sure. Is the serial on the bb? is there a baseball symbol?

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:35 PM »

Quote from: J.T.Racing on April 27, 2010, 08:31 PM

i can see the stamp. I didn't know the hollywood frames were made in taiwan, thought they were earlier than that. That one is for sure. Is the serial on the bb?

can't say i've ever heard of a genuine Hollywood from Taiwan either.

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:39 PM »

looking at the side on pic,i see the seat stays meet the rear of the top tube below the centre line so i reckon it's pukka,just curious about that bridge though.

jT Racing · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:42 PM »

but the brake bridge is on top of the seat stays and that only happened on the japan made frames.

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:45 PM »

i guess this is pending location of serial number and weep hole location/quantity.

RMB76 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:50 PM »

Well thanks for all your input on this subject I am much more confident about the bikes credentials now. Spotting that brake stamp was genius in real life you have to get right up to it as the paint is so thick and obscures the serial number too. The bike has one hole each side on the inside of the rear drop outs. I really dont think the cranks are fake either if they are I would want to find the man who made them and buy five more sets.

RB

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:52 PM »

Quote from: RMB76 on April 27, 2010, 08:50 PM

Well thanks for all your input on this subject I am much more confident about the bikes credentials now. Spotting that brake stamp was genius in real life you have to get right up to it as the paint is so thick and obscures the serial number too. The bike has one hole each side on the inside of the rear drop outs. I really dont think the cranks are fake either if they are I would want to find the man who made them and buy five more sets.

RB

so,only two weep holes,no more? then it sounds like the real deal. have you actually located the serial number?

sid1972 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:56 PM »

it's a nice looking bike..

RMB76 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 27, 2010, 08:58 PM »

I have looked but then I can barely see the brake bridge stamp its that faint. I had no idea there was such a community as this, will post pictures of the rest of my collection to see if I have bought any other ringers.

Thanks again.

HUTCHMAN · « **Reply #21 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:00 PM »

we would all love to see em!

harris · « **Reply #22 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:00 PM »

try to make the pics a tad smaller

brass monkey! · « **Reply #23 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:11 PM »

not all Hutches had serial nos.

my Trickstar has no serial number, which would either indicate it was a very early example (its a US one BTW) or it had two rear d/outs without a serial number welded in the factory. I have also heard of Hutch frames with two serial numbers, one on each rear d/out...

shoddy Hutches eh

brass monkey! · « **Reply #24 on:** April 27, 2010, 09:15 PM »

RMB...welcome to RAD

you can find a lot of Hutch info here..

http://users.telenet.be/jjrbmx/hutch/HUTCHfactory.html

and about the Hollywood and Mike Miranda here..

http://users.telenet.be/jjrbmx/hutch/MikeMiranda.html

Author Topic: Hutch Copy (Read 6860 times)

otterolly

Rodgy1970

trasher

sid1972