Author Topic: my latest early mongoose find (Read 10461 times)

winnit93 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 19, 2010, 10:53 PM »

Quote from: bobafett on January 19, 2010, 10:46 PM

"not fussed what model it is as mongoose were the burners of the american market"

piccy of the frame straight on from the back if you want frame ID

Forks are the 81+ hi-tensile jobbies.

She'll be sweet all cleaned up - You not keeping it chrome then ?

bloody batteries went flat ive taken delivery of 3 bikes since last night and decided to take pics of this one last.

id like to do the frame candy blue (the original colour before it was chromed) and leave forks chrome as it looks like they have always been that finnish

jT Racing · « **Reply #26 on:** January 20, 2010, 12:41 AM »

it would only be a team or super with the T in the serial in that year, fook knows why it has the later style serial, it's not one of those british ammaco made thingy's id it??. Them forks look right to me. why the fook is the gap on the bottom of the box section behind the bb sealed off with some grey shit? is the seatstay on the drive side flat on the inside at the end?

nice find though. you been skip picking in the flood clearing?

winnit93 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 20, 2010, 09:26 AM »

Quote from: J.T.Racing on January 20, 2010, 12:41 AM

it would only be a team or super with the T in the serial in that year, fook knows why it has the later style serial, it's not one of those british ammaco made thingy's id it??. Them forks look right to me. why the fook is the gap on the bottom of the box section behind the bb sealed off with some grey shit? is the seatstay on the drive side flat on the inside at the end?

nice find though. you been skip picking in the flood clearing?

the box section behind the bb is sealed metal all round just looks grey in photo, no flat plate on drive side. its may 1981 according to the goose site seems it was the change over months where there used both types of rear dropout.
ill get more pics later

dordymush · « **Reply #28 on:** January 20, 2010, 09:45 AM »

might be a puch in disguise

bobafett · « **Reply #29 on:** January 20, 2010, 12:50 PM »

Quote from: J.T.Racing on January 20, 2010, 12:41 AM

it would only be a team or super with the T in the serial in that year

That's not true I'm afraid.

In April 1981 the mongoose serial number style changed, dropping the T prefix for team models and also the C prefix for chatsworth meaning the serial starts with just the month and no longer had a Team/Super identifying character. So from april 81 onwards its D1xxxxx then may its E1xxxxx etc. etc.

Team and supergoose models from this point no longer have the T so there are many Teams / Supers made in 81 that do not have a T stamp.

The way to identify these team/super frames is the good old flat stay or 3 hole brake bridge method as the 3 hole bridge was introduced around the time of changeover and the flat stay was phased out. There are some examples, like I mentioned before, which have both the flat stay AND the 3 hole bridge. There is also a mish mash of dropouts to be found on frames with serials around the may/june 81 serial.

Case in example would be Kev's (KDW712) 81 supergoose, serial is E1xxxxx - newer style dropouts, new serial number (no T stamp) but with the flat stay.

dordymush · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2010, 01:01 PM »

see what you started now scott with ya bloody ole goose

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im just waiting for jimmy to start next

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bmxbob · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2010, 01:04 PM »

Quote from: bobafett on January 20, 2010, 12:50 PM

Quote from: J.T.Racing on January 20, 2010, 12:41 AM

it would only be a team or super with the T in the serial in that year

That's not true I'm afraid.

In April 1981 the mongoose serial number style changed, dropping the T prefix for team models and also the C prefix for chatsworth meaning the serial starts with just the month and no longer had a Team/Super identifying character. So from april 81 onwards its D1xxxxx then may its E1xxxxx etc. etc.

Team and supergoose models from this point no longer have the T so there are many Teams / Supers made in 81 that do not have a T stamp.

The way to identify these team/super frames is the good old flat stay or 3 hole brake bridge method as the 3 hole bridge was introduced around the time of changeover and the flat stay was phased out. There are some examples, like I mentioned before, which have both the flat stay AND the 3 hole bridge. There is also a mish mash of dropouts to be found on frames with serials around the may/june 81 serial.

Case in example would be Kev's (KDW712) 81 supergoose, serial is E1xxxxx - newer style dropouts, new serial number (no T stamp) but with the flat stay.

yes

winnit93 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2010, 01:14 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on January 20, 2010, 01:01 PM

see what you started now scott with ya bloody ole goose .
im just waiting for jimmy to start next .

hey i just picked up a fookin mongoose off a mate, i think its a ringer half PUCH half BURNER LOL

kdw712 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2010, 04:44 PM »

81 is a messy year for goose id's
lots of "use that parts bin up first" frame sets

cracking find though
nice to know they are still out there

love to see that orig receipt too
that kinda of thing is very cool to have with the bike

lazychubs · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2010, 05:38 PM »

looking thru the bottom triangle the brake bridge is flat on it

jT Racing · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2010, 06:39 PM »

that's fooked up. worse than hutch for serials and id's. didn't know they still used them dropouts in 81. but if it's got no flat stay and no T i wouldn't buy it as a full cro-mo $:-\$

anyhow, nice find scottie. Now don't paint it hollywood pink ffs

dordymush · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2010, 06:49 PM »

see you dont get these probs with a puch

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cause nobody fookin cares what it is

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winnit93 · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2010, 06:52 PM »

candy blue frame on this bad boy chrome forks but id like tuff 1's for it

jT Racing · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2010, 07:30 PM »

i've got a supergoose1. i wanted tuff 1's for it. never seen a pair on here since

would look mint i reckon scott. You still interested in the pro racer? seeing as i was doing it a mates rates

bobafett · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2010, 07:33 PM »

Quote from: J.T.Racing on January 20, 2010, 06:39 PM

but if it's got no flat stay............ i wouldn't but it as a full cro-mo

Yup, the flat stay (or lack of) is the key on this frame as it looks like the brake bridge only has one hole

Any pics of the back of the bike / chain stays yet ?

jT Racing · « **Reply #40 on:** January 20, 2010, 07:37 PM »

don't reckon he's bothered, after all, he likes TRM's $:-\$

winnit93 · « **Reply #41 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:00 PM »

last pics before i stat on it

bobafett · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:11 PM »

Standard goose frame

dordymush · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:12 PM »

how nice are them welds. just like on me puch scott

winnit93 · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:18 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on January 20, 2010, 10:12 PM

how nice are them welds. just like on me puch scott

is that the puch dave?

winnit93 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:25 PM »

these are puch welds

and this was a factory works bike

dordymush · « **Reply #46 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:28 PM »

lol i swear there worse than burner welds lol.
but im loving restoring the ole fooker than any dear bike i've had for a while

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all stripped ready for some lovely black spray canning.
i'd send it to dan but the cost would double the bike price lol.

winnit93 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 20, 2010, 10:38 PM »

Quote from: dordymush on January 20, 2010, 10:28 PM

lol i swear there worse than burner welds lol.
but im loving restoring the ole fooker than any dear bike i've had for a while .

all stripped ready for some lovely black spray canning.
i'd send it to dan but the cost would double the bike price lol.

dave as i said before youve not built a bad bike yet and you even got bike of the month useing tires from halfords